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Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Wouldn't rubber dry out over time? If you pay for a good set of speakers you probably want them to last for decades.

Couldn't you just replace it? We also pay for good cars, but we still change their tires every so often...

Speaker surrounds are replaced when necessary. For several decades foam was used, and it tended to break down. The butyl rubber usually used now lasts thirty to fifty years when not exposed directly to sunlight.

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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My screen readers reads that site in a verry strange way. It says that there is soft hyfens in a lot of the words so it reads the words like repro­duce as"repro duce"

It looks like they are doing some sort of dynamic text justification. If I change the text width by resizing the window it dynamically inserts hyphens at line breaks. Presumably via some javascript library.

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Summarizing dictionary.com: 1. Surprised and confused 2. Unperturbed "Yeah I am really unperturbed" doesn't make sense in context of it's parent. I'm not sure how you could be nonplussed about this.

> "Yeah I am really unperturbed" doesn't make sense in context of it's parent It's not just unpertrubed, it's also "not impressed". In the context of the comment it basically means "I see this speaker announcement as nothing special, what's the big deal?".

The commenter specifically used the word nonplussed in reference to the ranking of this post on the front page. The fact that their surprise and confusion stems from the promotion of unimpressive stories does not change the meaning from surprised and confused to unimpressed.

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Couldn't you just replace it? We also pay for good cars, but we still change their tires every so often...

Well I guess it's not the wooden box of a speaker that costs $2000-$30000 (normal price range for consumer Hi-Fi speakers). Replacing the speaker drivers would be more like replacing everything within the body of a car.

How do hifi speaker vendors justify such ridiculous prices when most studio monitors are way better priced than that? Insane.

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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These speakers seem to work like this: There is a rubber layer, coated with conducting material to serve as electrodes. The signal is applied in form of a high voltage which makes the electrodes attract each other and contract the rubber in between perpendicular to the surface (i.e. the rubber layer gets thinner). Since the rubber material is relatively incompressible though (volume of the material doesn't change), t…

It sounds a little like Bayer’s ViviTouch, but for higher frequency bands. ViviTouch was only used for haptics and sunwoofers as far as I know. https://www.innovationworldcup.com/finalist/vivitouch-eap-he...

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Yeah I am really unperturbed" doesn't make sense in context of it's parent It's not just unpertrubed, it's also "not impressed". In the context of the comment it basically means "I see this speaker announcement as nothing special, what's the big deal?".

The commenter specifically used the word nonplussed in reference to the ranking of this post on the front page. The fact that their surprise and confusion stems from the promotion of unimpressive stories does not change the meaning from surprised and confused to unimpressed.

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Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Well I guess it's not the wooden box of a speaker that costs $2000-$30000 (normal price range for consumer Hi-Fi speakers). Replacing the speaker drivers would be more like replacing everything within the body of a car.

How do hifi speaker vendors justify such ridiculous prices when most studio monitors are way better priced than that? Insane.

I genuinely wonder the same actually. Seems like there would go even more engineering into making a speaker that is "true" and not coloring the sound as one expects from their monitors.

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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> Current loudspeakers use a magnet coupled with the movement of a copper coil to vibrate a membrane. In the future these heavy, bulky, and expensive components could be replaced by a dielectric elastomer membrane. They mention efficiency, but not power. I don't like how this is framed as the general future of all speakers when it's really just the future of midrange drivers.

Heavy speakers is a plus when moving low frequencies. Otherwise you have to strap or bolt them down and together.

_Might_ be the future of mids, but I doubt it. Advancement in ribbon speakers is more likely IMHO. Also people develop a taste for how some speakers sound. I don't see guitar music being played on anything too different for a while, unless it has the same sound character. Even if technically it's a better reproduction, it has to reproduce how paper cone speakers sound now better than paper does. Seems unlikely. To win, people have to like the new sound more, or not be able to tell the difference.

Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers

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Wouldn't rubber dry out over time? If you pay for a good set of speakers you probably want them to last for decades.

Lots of traditional speakers already use a rubber ring around the edge of the cone.

Which is what turned to dust in my twenty year old infinitys. They were the cheaper ones but still surprised me.
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