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Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by edude03 »

tuukkah wrote: post #38
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Till the time they are also bought and "sunsetted." That's the problem with all these shiny startups.

Not this one though, they are open source so someone else would start to offer new hosted instances: https://github.com/neondatabase/neon Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts It could potentially be one of their partners: Vercel https://neon.tech/docs/guides/vercel Hasura https://neon.tech/docs/guides/hasura

> Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts

For the record though, they're not enough to run neon today[0] - this has been a "problem" since neon was announced here[1].

[0]: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts/issues/35#issue-...

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31540691

Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by codeflo »

I haven't heard of either of those companies. I don't even fully understand what Databricks does. But it's clear that they have no problem shutting down a production database offering with 30 days notice, and have the gall to title this action "Investing in the Developer Experience". If this doesn't send a message that you shouldn't trust them with anything important, I don't know what would.

Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by rovr138 »

codeflo wrote: post #43

I haven't heard of either of those companies. I don't even fully understand what Databricks does. But it's clear that they have no problem shutting down a production database offering with 30 days notice, and have the gall to title this action "Investing in the Developer Experience". If this doesn't send a message that you shouldn't trust them with anything important, I don't know what would.

Databricks is a company by the people that built Spark.

They've extended and their platform does a lot now.

Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by mborch »

unnouinceput wrote: post #23

"Serverless"...this word is so thrown around nowadays that it lost its original meaning. Same way the phrase "we're like a family" transitioned from a beloved one in 50's to its thrown away in 90's meaningless all the way to today be considered a red flag when you hear such a word at a hiring interview, the "serverless" word is in its late 90's nowadays. One decade and will become just another red flag.

The meaning is pretty clear: you don't manage compute, it scales up elastically based on demand, even all the way to zero. Ideally, it reacts quickly enough to changes in demand that you don't need to worry about it. Serverless is basically the original promise of the cloud.

Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by thinkharderdev »

unnouinceput wrote: post #23

"Serverless"...this word is so thrown around nowadays that it lost its original meaning. Same way the phrase "we're like a family" transitioned from a beloved one in 50's to its thrown away in 90's meaningless all the way to today be considered a red flag when you hear such a word at a hiring interview, the "serverless" word is in its late 90's nowadays. One decade and will become just another red flag.

What was the original meaning? When I hear "serverless" I think basically:

1. I don't have to think about or manage any servers

2. Usage is metered at a very fine-grained level (per X requests to the API/per GB of data/etc)

3. No fixed cost. You only pay for usage.

Was there a different meaning originally?

Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by tuukkah »

edude03 wrote: post #41
tuukkah wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not this one though, they are open source so someone else would start to offer new hosted instances: https://github.com/neondatabase/neon Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts It could potentially be one of their partners: Vercel https://neon.tech/docs/guides/vercel Hasura https://neon.tech/docs/guides/hasura

> Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts For the record though, they're not enough to run neon today[0] - this has been a "problem" since neon was announced here[1]. [0]: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts/issues/35#issue-... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31540691

Yes, you'd have to do some own work to set up a direct competitor from the provided pieces.

They have published a new piece which is how they vertically autoscale Postgres in Kubernetes: https://github.com/neondatabase/autoscaling

Re: Databricks acquires serverless Postgres vendor bit.io

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Post by kccqzy »

codeflo wrote: post #43

I haven't heard of either of those companies. I don't even fully understand what Databricks does. But it's clear that they have no problem shutting down a production database offering with 30 days notice, and have the gall to title this action "Investing in the Developer Experience". If this doesn't send a message that you shouldn't trust them with anything important, I don't know what would.

Wow you are right. The blog post doesn't even mention it but the home page https://bit.io/ does.
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