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Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by davidbarker » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:48 PM UTC

kentm wrote: post #30

giobox wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I think the app and service has gotten much worse in several ways post-Elon, I do see way less crypto spam than before FWIW. The "For You" tab now actually sometimes even surfaces tweets I'm interested in too now. Performance and general stability has absolutely fallen for me though, and the launch of the DeSantis campaign on Twitter was a technical embarrassment/disaster as far as I could tell.

For me, the Twitter Blue boost has really led to a general drop in quality. I find that Blue subscribers typically don't say valuable things and are some of the most uninteresting people on the app, and yet they get boosted right to the top.

My experience is the same. Look at any POTUS or White House tweet (or a tweet from any well-known left-of-centre account) and it's reply after reply full of vitriol and hate, all pushed to the top.

It's remarkable, and sad.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by ZephyrBlu » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

ThorsBane wrote: post #7

herbst wrote: post #3

Twitter and their V1 api was one of the reasons I fell in love with programming and automation. Today "For hobbyists or prototypes" you pay $100. A month! It's sad.

For me it was reddit's api. That being said, they can't be expected to provide free or low-cost apis across the board forever...otherwise everyone's gonna just constantly use them to the detriment of the entire platform! There has to be a cost so that an equilibrium between demand and availability is attained. Tbh, $100 a month for a hobby project or prototype is not the end of the world. Maybe they could add special…

The $100/mo API has extremely shit limits on top of being prohibitively expensive for prototyping. This will kill the mere idea of building anything on Twitter's API. Low friction and upfront costs are important for hobby projects and experimental prototypes.

In this day and age it's expected that companies have generous free tiers for hobby/prototype usage, and it makes sense because it usually costs them pennies to provide it.

Serving API requests is extremely cheap and the volume is almost always going to be so insignificant that they wouldn't even be able to tell if developers are using the API if not for API keys.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by edu4hnta05159 » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

JohnMakin wrote: post #27

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> are you/have you ever been worth over $100b-$200b? If not... how can you sit there and cast judgement as if you actually know anything about what's going on behind the scenes/at his wealth level?... This is such a hilarious fallacy it barely deserves a response. Hope you enjoy spending $8/month on twitter. His decisions have been objectively bad.

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Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by somethoughts » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

Could this actually be a good thing for the Twitter bot problem?

Are re-tweets/likes considered a tweet in the tweet limits?

I'm not a heavy Twitter user or developer just a curious bystander and definitely don't have details into the "buy retweets" ecosystem so not sure if the "buy retweets"/buy social cred were using this type of API, humans or webscraping type scripts.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by methodical » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

RGBCube wrote: post #19

grouchomarx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"build for fun" indie musician paying $100/mo for twitter

It's like paying $100 a month to be able to publish your fart noise app on the Apple Store.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment but if you're under the presumption the Apple Developer membership is $100/mo then I wanted to clarify it's actually $100/yr for Apple Developer (it's actually 99 but I'm not going to play semantics).

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by snickerbockers » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

willio58 wrote: post #6

The shear amount of floundering that twitter has done since Elon bought it is hilarious as a non-user. I do feel bad for the people who just like using twitter though, like every other week the checkmark means something different. I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now. Elon really knows how to shake up a company! And by shake up I mean destroy one step at a time.

>I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now

Wasn't that already a problem before he took over? I seem to recall Joe Biden hawking some crypto scam after Twitter's admin got catfished into giving a third party access to his account.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by ZephyrBlu » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

ThorsBane wrote: post #17

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$100 is way too expensive for the bulk of the world’s population. And that gets you just 10,000 tweets per month read limit.

Yeah, but if the bulk of the world's population is slamming an api that's free...there's no more api or platform at that point, since it's not going to generate enough revenue anymore. Could take the entire platform with it if all of the available funds are going towards serving free api traffic.

> Could take the entire platform with it if all of the available funds are going towards serving free api traffic

Bro... Twitter can definitely handle the traffic generated by developers using their APIs. I doubt it even registers on their dashboards.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by kramerger » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

That's a lot of money for a service that currently has single-nine availability.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by kgwxd » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:51 PM UTC

giobox wrote: post #24

willio58 wrote: post #6

The shear amount of floundering that twitter has done since Elon bought it is hilarious as a non-user. I do feel bad for the people who just like using twitter though, like every other week the checkmark means something different. I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now. Elon really knows how to shake up a company! And by shake up I mean destroy one step at a time.

While I think the app and service has gotten much worse in several ways post-Elon, I do see way less crypto spam than before FWIW. The "For You" tab now actually sometimes even surfaces tweets I'm interested in too now. Performance and general stability has absolutely fallen for me though, and the launch of the DeSantis campaign on Twitter was a technical embarrassment/disaster as far as I could tell.

Elon put a dogecoin logo in place of the twitter logo. It's the most obnoxious crypto spam imaginable next to projecting a logo of it on the moon. The reason for other crypto spam falling is because they're competitors. Same thing he did with substack.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by longbrass » Thu, May 25, 2023, 6:51 PM UTC

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #23

willio58 wrote: post #6

The shear amount of floundering that twitter has done since Elon bought it is hilarious as a non-user. I do feel bad for the people who just like using twitter though, like every other week the checkmark means something different. I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now. Elon really knows how to shake up a company! And by shake up I mean destroy one step at a time.

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> are you/have you ever been worth over $100b-$200b? If not... how can you sit there and cast judgement as if you actually know anything about what's going on behind the scenes/at his wealth level?...

This is some Cornithan's level Biblical reasoning right here..