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Amazon corporate workers plan walkout next week over return-to-office policies

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Re: Amazon corporate workers plan walkout next week over return-to-office policies

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Post by drewcoo »

neom wrote: post #13

I still think out of all the...unique... things Elon has said... work from home is morally wrong has to take the cake. I try to spend time looking at things as radically as I can. I think it's helpful to accept folks views as widely as possible, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around work from home being morally wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OHFt8QyiU I was on a bicycle ride listening to this intervie…

Harrison Bergeron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

full text: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsd...

That used to be standard reading in my high school. Elon is full of deepity. And high school reading.

Re: Amazon corporate workers plan walkout next week over return-to-office policies

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Post by Eisenstein »

mnfx wrote: post #28
chrisbrandow wrote: post #2

I didn’t see a description of the policy in the article. Did I miss it? It would be helpful context.

Short answer is 3 days a week in the office. Long answer is effectively things will go back to how they were pre-pandemic. Except you now have to average 3 days a week in the office instead of the 5 that it was before. Some people can get exceptions, but it's basically going back to 2019 rules where the default is office. The funny part for me is that if they had of announced these new rules in 2019, they would have…

Of course, that's why they refuse to give even an inch except when they absolutely have to -- because people will fight to retain something that benefits them much more than they will fight to gain a possible benefit they have never experienced.

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colordrops wrote: post #26
neom wrote: post #13

I still think out of all the...unique... things Elon has said... work from home is morally wrong has to take the cake. I try to spend time looking at things as radically as I can. I think it's helpful to accept folks views as widely as possible, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around work from home being morally wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OHFt8QyiU I was on a bicycle ride listening to this intervie…

Elon's argument makes no sense on multiple levels: 1. Every job has different requirements, and you can't arbitrarily apply the same standards to every one. It's no different from saying that "Cooks have to de-grease the grill, so desk workers have to de-grease their desks at the end of the day as well." You'd think that someone so ruthlessly focused on productivity and efficiency would acknowledge this. 2. He speaks…

It makes a lot of sense when you consider how much of his wealth is invested in a car company.

Even in a hybrid work environment, the vast majority of the miles I put on my car are commuting to and from the office. And if a household has 2 adults who need to commute, they're more likely to want 2 fuel-efficient vehicles.

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Post by bcrosby95 »

vkou wrote: post #17
throwaway675309 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His argument also boils down to the idea that since other jobs such as manufacturing require employees to be on site, that all jobs should have the same requirement. Smh... Also the idea of a ruthless capitalistic multibillionaire invoking morality as a defense is just kafkaesque.

I like his argument, and I would like to extend it to something like 'Since some people get through life on a salary of $7.75/hr (Or less), we should take away Elon's billions of dollars.' It'd only be fair - he can, after all, do well without all the comforts and power that his wealth affords him.

But that would be unfair because it harms Elon.

What happens to us doesn't matter, remember? We're all just NPCs.

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Post by LapsangGuzzler »

adverbly wrote: post #37
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pure speculation, but my guess is that he’s invested in the commercial real estate market and hoping for a turnaround. I don’t think it’s some profound or insane ideology he has, I think he’s just trying to prop up CRE like he does with crypto. He’s famous for buying distressed commercial properties and for gaslighting, it just makes sense and the whole moral argument was a great way to get people talking about it.

I don't think its a CRE angle. He has multiple companies built around transportation. Remote work => less demand for transportation.

There’s no way that someone as wealthy as he doesn’t own at least some commercial property. Even if not himself, Tesla alone owns billions in CRE, not to mention his other companies.

Commercial properties are some of the most valuable assets a company owns, of course the guy wants to keep CRE values up. Just because he owns some transportation companies doesn’t mean he’s allergic to CRE, that’s kinda naive.

That’s like arguing guys at his level don’t donate to both political parties when they clearly do. Because by doing that, you get to own the whole system, not just a piece.

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Post by gregwebs »

During the pandemic I had an initial meeting with a hiring manager at Amazon that didn’t care that I was multiple time zones away from her office. Even though the official policy was actually return to office when pandemic conditions change. Luckily I didn’t want to go through their interview process- I’m guessing I would have gotten axed in the layoffs for being newer on the team and not being able to come to the office.
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