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The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by thegaulofthem »

tsunamifury wrote: post #25
jackcosgrove wrote: post #21

South Korea is reaping the dividend of the demographic transition right now. They are where Japan was in the 1980s. They played their cards very well and were able to build up both hard and soft power during the growth years.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

If only we had an aggressively socialist nation with a comparable demographic to compare to. Shame there isn’t an East Korea we could compare with and against.

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by neximo64 »

tsunamifury wrote: post #25
jackcosgrove wrote: post #21

South Korea is reaping the dividend of the demographic transition right now. They are where Japan was in the 1980s. They played their cards very well and were able to build up both hard and soft power during the growth years.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

There are plenty of people in other countries who would easily pick South Korea as a better place to live, but never admit it verbally for the reasons you're saying.

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by gtop3 »

tsunamifury wrote: post #25
jackcosgrove wrote: post #21

South Korea is reaping the dividend of the demographic transition right now. They are where Japan was in the 1980s. They played their cards very well and were able to build up both hard and soft power during the growth years.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

My familiarity with SK is minimal, but I am interested by part of your comment and would like to study more. What is the name of the cult you are referring to?

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by carabiner »

fomine3 wrote: post #40
zdragnar wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kimchi is actually starting to pop up in surprising places away from city centers (my rural grocery store has some) but it sits around and by the time I got some, it was... not fresh. Sushi has the benefit of needing to be consumed fresh, except for fake crab which freezes well enough that you can find "sushi" at quite a few out of the way gas stations as well. Having access to an asian grocery store with fresh bean…

Kimchi don't have to be "fresh", it's preference.

You can get kimchi in a can. It's ok.

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by zdragnar »

fomine3 wrote: post #40
zdragnar wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kimchi is actually starting to pop up in surprising places away from city centers (my rural grocery store has some) but it sits around and by the time I got some, it was... not fresh. Sushi has the benefit of needing to be consumed fresh, except for fake crab which freezes well enough that you can find "sushi" at quite a few out of the way gas stations as well. Having access to an asian grocery store with fresh bean…

Kimchi don't have to be "fresh", it's preference.

I guess it could be good in a soup, but personally if it doesn't have at least some crunch I don't care for it. I had a bad experience with kimchi that went off and couldn't even taste any for a year without gagging as a result.

That said, rural folk in this part of the country are more likely to appreciate a fresh kimchi than they would soft stuff; the same goes for sauerkraut (bagged vs canned).

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by solarmist »

gtop3 wrote: post #43
tsunamifury wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

My familiarity with SK is minimal, but I am interested by part of your comment and would like to study more. What is the name of the cult you are referring to?

Dunno about that cult, but huge conglomerates like Samsung and LG control their entire economy.

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by solarmist »

thegaulofthem wrote: post #41
tsunamifury wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

If only we had an aggressively socialist nation with a comparable demographic to compare to. Shame there isn’t an East Korea we could compare with and against.

North Korea was screwed the second they were divided. They have terrible geography for sustaining a country.

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by thegrim33 »

tsunamifury wrote: post #25
jackcosgrove wrote: post #21

South Korea is reaping the dividend of the demographic transition right now. They are where Japan was in the 1980s. They played their cards very well and were able to build up both hard and soft power during the growth years.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

Fairly ironic making a comment about cults when you're coming here to proselytize the political/social ideology your echo chamber (cult) has convinced you is the truth.

Re: The $40M bet that made South Korea a food and cultural power

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Post by tsunamifury »

gtop3 wrote: post #43
tsunamifury wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crashing population, massive child suicide rate, terrible dictator families running the nation and an outright cult controlling even more… I really don’t think we should hold SK up for anything other than what aggressive capitalism does to a society. Kills it off.

My familiarity with SK is minimal, but I am interested by part of your comment and would like to study more. What is the name of the cult you are referring to?

Chaebols and unification church.

It’s a really really deeply struggling society and no where near as ideal as projected.

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