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The AI revolution already transforming education

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Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

The way computers do arithmetic has nothing to do with the way that a human given pen and paper does it. If we were serious about that, we should force kids to do it in binary.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

#42

> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

The way computers do arithmetic has nothing to do with the way that a human given pen and paper does it. If we were serious about that, we should force kids to do it in binary.

It's just not the case that the arithmetical algorithms implemented in circuitry have "nothing to do" with pen and paper algorithms. The core ideas of the algorithms we teach kids to add, subtract, multiply, and divide carry over to different bases. The biggest difference between the algorithms implemented in circuitry and those we execute with pen and paper isn't the base, it's the fact that logical gates can be placed in parallel so there's some additional trickery in exploiting that maximally. But understanding the pen and paper algorithms, in whatever base, is still a good starting point for understanding how computers do arithmetic.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

#43

There is no "ai" revolution and nothing is being transformed. Please enough of this already.

Mind if I ask what decade your age is? The appearance of LLMs has been the strangest phenomenon. If course not everyone agrees, but I feel like I'm watching the arrival of the automobile and am having people say to me "It's loud, it's slow and it breaks down often. There's nothing to see here. It's just a fad.". Just about everyone in tech I know in person in their 40s and above, believe this will be the biggest thin…

I'm in my thirties. I might fall into the category of having trouble recognizing revolutionary technology as you say.

> They all are looking at this and saying this is gonna be huge.

It's beyond me why would anyone assume an LLM that's already been trained in most relevant and available data will just keep becoming somehow way better and smarter. I get that it has it's uses, but what do they mean by huge anyway, theoretically it could end up a huge mess too.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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There is no "ai" revolution and nothing is being transformed. Please enough of this already.

Mind if I ask what decade your age is? The appearance of LLMs has been the strangest phenomenon. If course not everyone agrees, but I feel like I'm watching the arrival of the automobile and am having people say to me "It's loud, it's slow and it breaks down often. There's nothing to see here. It's just a fad.". Just about everyone in tech I know in person in their 40s and above, believe this will be the biggest thin…

Exact opposite experience on my end - impressionable gen-z kids, and people with minimal background on the topic,* are seeing it as the second coming of christ, where as all the math-and-adjacent PhDs, especially ML-focused, I work with are not buying the hype.

* There's really bizarre tendency of that group to woo-woo and anthropomorphize all those language models. I get answers like "oh it just knows" or "you should try it" when asking probing/hypothetical question.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

#46

The new PDF plugin is an absolutely fantastic tool for digesting a large number of academic articles quickly.

I haven't heard of this - would you mind telling me the name of the plugin?

There's two, but ChatWithPDF works well with Zotero-published public links to PDFs in a personal library. Or you can upload on their website and then paste the response code back in to the plugin.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

#47

> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

Calligraphy is similar. Once an important art, now not even an afterthought. We need a understanding of math and algorithms but not really knowledge of the procedures.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

#48

> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

The way computers do arithmetic has nothing to do with the way that a human given pen and paper does it. If we were serious about that, we should force kids to do it in binary.

ripple-carry adders work the same way as a kid doing arithmetic on paper

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mind if I ask what decade your age is? The appearance of LLMs has been the strangest phenomenon. If course not everyone agrees, but I feel like I'm watching the arrival of the automobile and am having people say to me "It's loud, it's slow and it breaks down often. There's nothing to see here. It's just a fad.". Just about everyone in tech I know in person in their 40s and above, believe this will be the biggest thin…

I'm in my thirties. I might fall into the category of having trouble recognizing revolutionary technology as you say. > They all are looking at this and saying this is gonna be huge. It's beyond me why would anyone assume an LLM that's already been trained in most relevant and available data will just keep becoming somehow way better and smarter. I get that it has it's uses, but what do they mean by huge anyway, theo…

> an LLM that's already been trained in most relevant and available data

Source? Are you referring to gpt 4?

What about private data sets / corporate IP?

What about my private data, such message and email history, contacts’ available or privately shareable data, my photo and video library, and health data?

Presuming all of this was included in an LLM directly or as some kind of additional LORAs.

It seems clear to me that the tooling and resource requirements prevent anything near full accessibility of the content that is there.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure we do. In the Boy Scouts for example, though I just learned it from a book. I suspect a large percentage of people on HN would know how to start a fire from scratch.

> I suspect a large percentage of people on HN would know how to start a fire from scratch. It's almost impossible for me to believe that even 1% of HN readers can start a friction fire.

Current readers. But the core readership from say 15 years ago?
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