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Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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I'm still not sure why someone would need to do this? What kind of information are you obtaining from books that you later find yourself wanting to search for? These kind of productivity tips always confuse me when they lack context of what the person writing is trying to do . Like: Anki flashcards and spaced repetition. I see a lot of people advocating for them. I have never understood why because, in my personal ex…

> retaining lots of disconnected facts has never really been something I've needed to solve for. At in regards to Anki usage, the “disconnected facts” seem to be something that only students (high school/college) or people new to Anki do. These people are very much using Anki for a short term goal like passing a test or class. For that use case, “disconnected facts” works just fine. The people who use Anki (long term…

If I've looked at a concept enough to write cards attacking it from different angles... why would I need to see those cards again? At that point I know that concept.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#43

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> retaining lots of disconnected facts has never really been something I've needed to solve for. At in regards to Anki usage, the “disconnected facts” seem to be something that only students (high school/college) or people new to Anki do. These people are very much using Anki for a short term goal like passing a test or class. For that use case, “disconnected facts” works just fine. The people who use Anki (long term…

If I've looked at a concept enough to write cards attacking it from different angles... why would I need to see those cards again? At that point I know that concept.

Unfortunately, knowledge decays over time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgetting_curve

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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If you're trying to answer questions, the even more advanced tactic is to read more books, but only read the parts that touch on your question. That's why god invented the subject index. Reading every word in order is not for people who have specific questions to answer, but for pleasure, or for learning the basics.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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It’s not worth summarizing every book.

I took a course at UChicago on how to read a book based on Mortimer Adler’s book of the same name, and the takeaway is that the first reading of a book should be a quick one (table of contents, skimming, dipping into pages). Only after a book is shown to have promise are we then to engage in deep reading which not only involves summarizing but also syntopical reading, which is to read other books around the same topic.

One thing that has really helped me is to scribble notes in the margins and to write a précis after every chapter, then a précis on the inside cover of the book to summarize all my chapter précis.

Finally all good books should be read twice or more. Good reading is rereading. This is a hard rule to follow because nobody has time to read the same book twice but the truth is you can’t understand a book deeply on first reading because you don’t have the lay of the land and the benefit of retrospection. A rereading helps you focus on details missed the first time around. To be honest though, very few books meet my bar of my willing to reread them.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#46

Well it really depends what your goals are, right? What kind of books are you reading, to what end? I personally struggle to think of any book I have engaged with which I got value out of, that could be meaningfully summarized in a couple of hours. The author was an expert on the subject and they only managed to summarize it down to a few hundred pages - if there was only a couple of pages worth of ideas in there pre…

I find that most of the things I read can be pretty effectively summarized in a single thesis sentence and a few additional sentences to generally describe how that thesis was supported. If you're only reading things that can't even be summarized in an abstract, you must be reading a lot of unopinionated biographies?

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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I totally agree, and surprised it's a bit controversial here. I understand that reading for pleasure can be different than reading for comprehension

But I lean towards reading for comprehension. I have a wiki which includes all the books I've read. The good ones get their own wiki pages with the main things I learned, and other notes.

A key point is that I don't take notes while I read. I only do it LATER -- because if you can't remember what to write down for a few days, then you probably won't retain it, and it may not be worth retaining.

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As a specific example, when thinking about this -- I wonder if anybody has read "The Signal vs. The Noise" by Nate Silver? I remember reading it because a friend had a copy.

Many years later, off the top of my head, I can't remember a single thing in that book. Question for other readers: can you remember a single thing from it?

I think maybe it's because I kinda knew most of the stuff in that book? I will refer to my notes.

On the other hand, I've been re-reading Antifragile by Taleb, which I first read in 2012 I believe, and it struck me how many things I absorbed unconsciously from that book, which I didn't ascribe to it.

For example I remember talking about "hormesis" during COVID, i.e. small errors and stress. And also I took up some light weightlifting because I thought it was a good complement to bike riding. i.e. having 2 different kinds of exercise

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edit: Just went to back to my notes on Silver's book (finished January 2014). Surprisingly I was extremely positive on the book -- I said the writing was engaging, it's well-sourced, very good set of topics (weather prediction, earthquakes, terrorists, poker, basketball, financial markets), and novel insights

Though the funny thing is that I didn't say what the actual insights were. The only one was the importance of knowing when you don't know, which I also got from Taleb

So maybe I should go back to that book and see if I still think it's good, and if there were insights I didn't get elsewhere

It's funny perhaps that my perception of the book has been clouded by Silver's reputation. I think he has been criticized for "predicting the present" and of "horse race coverage", and I think that's true now. But back when I read the book, I probably had a much more positive impression of him!! Very interesting

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I've looked at a concept enough to write cards attacking it from different angles... why would I need to see those cards again? At that point I know that concept.

Unfortunately, knowledge decays over time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgetting_curve

That is indeed what advocates of spaced repetition say.

Personally I find that knowledge that’s internalized and used does not decay. And devoting effort to refreshing the DRAM for knowledge I’m not using seems like it fails the YAGNI test. Let my brain’s cache eviction algorithm do its thing. If I learned something once I figure I can probably learn it again.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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I’m at 47 books read this year so far and mostly disagree with the author of the article. When you find a book that’s worth summarizing, do it. But I get exposed to many more ideas (and find the ones worth thinking about more) simply by reading more. Also, I just like reading. My goal isn’t to have some kind of personal knowledge base to prove how much I’ve comprehended to myself.

> My goal isn’t to have some kind of personal knowledge base to prove how much I’ve comprehended to myself.

The reason many people accumulate wealth is to spend it, not to stare at it insecurely. It goes without saying that knowing more things expands the number of things you can do.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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post #45

It’s not worth summarizing every book. I took a course at UChicago on how to read a book based on Mortimer Adler’s book of the same name, and the takeaway is that the first reading of a book should be a quick one (table of contents, skimming, dipping into pages). Only after a book is shown to have promise are we then to engage in deep reading which not only involves summarizing but also syntopical reading, which is t…

This may be cultural but I just cannot bring myself write in a book even in pencil. post-its notes for me this is a great idea if I have the discipline
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