I got a wrong certificate warning and a 403. Does anyone have a mirror?
Disable the HTTPS-Everywhere ruleset.
Oh, I don't even remember that I have that installed. Yeah, that was it.
Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
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Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#42The real question regarding the Mac App Store, IMHO, is whether or not it forbids a broad enough class of still-popular applications that it fails to achieve the goal of becoming the default distribution method for applications on the Mac and instead is relegated to games and simple utilities that fit nicely inside this model. Very very popular apps like: Chrome Photoshop/Adobe CS Fusion/Parallels Microsoft Office Te…
Pretend I'm Apple answering these questions for a moment...
> Chrome
"Safari."
> Photoshop/Adobe CS
"Creatives? Did you see what we did to Final Cut? Have you noticed how little we talk about the Mac Pro anymore?"
> Fusion/Parallels
> Text Editors
> FTP Clients
"We're in the consumer products business, not the 'tools for nerds' business. Ask an XServe customer if you want more information."
> Microsoft Office
"We could care less if we sell boring-ass business software into enterprises."
> Dropbox
"iCloud."
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're trying to take take take everything away from the user. Soon there will be no filesystem.
>Soon there will be no filesystem. Is that a bad thing? I'm not saying it will happen soon, or that those of us long in the tooth will go easily, but I honestly think it's the future. Think about young teenagers who will soon be "in charge". They snap a pic on their phone and send it to someone else. Nobody cares where it is in the filesystem, or even what the filename is. I used to meticulously name, tag and organiz…
Once you are dealing with more than, say, two hundred pieces of information, you kind of start needing to classify that information and have definite ways to find it.
If tags are a way that you can definitely find and specify a given file, then tags will form part of a new, distributed file system. If tags wind-up just being half-assed, uncertain hints to where files might be, then they will form part of a new, disfunctional distributed file system. And the later case seems to be where things are going. This "hints but no certainty" approach to file location indeed works great most of the time and fails frustratingly significant percent of the time.
But even here, this is a file system even when it is often dysfunctional.
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#44Wouldn't security-scoped bookmarks solve some of the problems he describes? From the sandbox design guide: -------------------------------- Starting in Mac OS X v10.6, the NSURL class and the CFURLRef opaque type each provide a facility for creating and using bookmark objects. A bookmark provides a persistent reference to a file-system resource. When you resolve a bookmark, you obtain a URL to the resource’s current…
Wow thanks; I had not realized there were 10.7.3 related updates to the Sandboxing Guide.
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#45I've been wondering/worried what Gatekeeper, sandboxing, and the rise of the Mac App store in general are going to mean for third party plugin type apps, say for instance Native Instruments virtual synth plugins, or photoshop plugins. iOS can't really handle them, but will they be able to continue to exist on future macs, or will they only work on the non-app store model?
1. By the letter of the law, Mac App Store apps are to be sandboxed, which means no /Library access, which means no plug-ins. In practice, Logic, Mainstage, Final Cut, and others are currently available in the Mac App Store. To me, the only thing that would make these harsh restrictions worse would be uneven enforcement of the rules. We'll see what happens. 2. As of iOS 5, the platform has native Audio Unit support.…
> By the letter of the law, Mac App Store apps are to be sandboxed, which means no /Library access, which means no plug-ins.
I don't understand: What prevents an app from having an "Add Plugin..." dialog that uses the sandboxed file browser to locate a plugin library in whatever sensible format?
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're trying to take take take everything away from the user. Soon there will be no filesystem.
Yes, and never mind that just about everything you take for granted about personal computers was "given" by Apple, too. I find this notion that users are entitled to complete device freedom really annoying. If you find it so objectionable, go build your own hardware and OS platform. This isn't a matter of human rights because no one is telling you that you can't make your own.
And if you don't like pollution and global warming, stop complaining and trying to make things better, instead colonize your own planet and make them pollution-free.
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#47The real question regarding the Mac App Store, IMHO, is whether or not it forbids a broad enough class of still-popular applications that it fails to achieve the goal of becoming the default distribution method for applications on the Mac and instead is relegated to games and simple utilities that fit nicely inside this model. Very very popular apps like: Chrome Photoshop/Adobe CS Fusion/Parallels Microsoft Office Te…
Pretend I'm Apple answering these questions for a moment... > Chrome "Safari." > Photoshop/Adobe CS "Creatives? Did you see what we did to Final Cut? Have you noticed how little we talk about the Mac Pro anymore?" > Fusion/Parallels > Text Editors > FTP Clients "We're in the consumer products business, not the 'tools for nerds' business. Ask an XServe customer if you want more information." > Microsoft Office "We cou…
Or, far more accurately, "You can get these all apps from the developers directly. We don't support them on the Mac App Store at this time, and we don't discuss future product directions".
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, and never mind that just about everything you take for granted about personal computers was "given" by Apple, too. I find this notion that users are entitled to complete device freedom really annoying. If you find it so objectionable, go build your own hardware and OS platform. This isn't a matter of human rights because no one is telling you that you can't make your own.
Great sarcasm. :-)
I honestly can't get if that's sarcasm or the poster really believes such things. I think Poe's law applies here.
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're trying to take take take everything away from the user. Soon there will be no filesystem.
Yes, and never mind that just about everything you take for granted about personal computers was "given" by Apple, too. I find this notion that users are entitled to complete device freedom really annoying. If you find it so objectionable, go build your own hardware and OS platform. This isn't a matter of human rights because no one is telling you that you can't make your own.
@recoiledsnake: (for whatever reason, I'm not allowed to reply directly to you)
You're comparing Apple's ecosystem to Earth's.
Apple is a private company that makes products that are sold on the commercial markets. The Earth is something entirely different. If Apple made planets, then yes – they could decide how to manage the atmosphere. That's how business works.
Re: Between a rock and a hard place – our decision to abandon the Mac App Store
#50Apple needs to do better than this. For the duration of the company's existence, one of their biggest customer segments has been the creative industry. I can't think of a single pro audio/video/graphic/etc app that doesn't make extensive use of plug-ins, another Mac App Store disqualifier. Do the developers of these apps necessarily have a "right" to iCloud APIs, delta updates, and other benefits of playing in Apple'…
MAS applications are not disallowed from supporting plugins.