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Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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I remember how cool their stuff was ~10 years ago. Won't miss what they became.

Exactly, Hamiltons drug reports, the documentaries about conflicts you never heard before and the more outlandish stuff they reported on back then were great. I havent watched a Vice piece in ages, their new content became an edgier buzzfeed…

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Do people consider this as a great loss? I did not liked the sensationalistic format very much, so I avoided them, but they seemed to have done some investigative journalism?

They did indeed do a lot of very real journalism. Something most outlets just don't do anymore. It's a huge shame.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Some years ago they had a large audience, me included, who got great value out of their investigative journalism. At some point they started pivoting into some weird form of advocacy journalism and clickbait garbage, alienating their existing audience, and apparently failing to find a new one. Good riddance.

They started edgy (Gavin McInnes was the co-founder), they became partisan. I'm no fan of a certain Youtuber, but he started at Vice News, and he claims that when the sex harassment lawsuits happened, Vice had to make themselves look "clean" for investors and so become more "aligned" with the US political left and became essentially yet another PAC like Vox media or Buzzfeed.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Some of their reports were remarkable, for example "The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia" [1] - that takes courage. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo

Oh man this is from the really early days. It's where most of us learned of the bizarrely named Liberian fighter "General Butt Naked" for the first time.

Fascinating story, and a great retelling on the Behind the Bastards podcast if anyone is interested. The history of Liberia isn’t the nicest topic, but something that doesn’t seem widely known and maybe should be.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/queen_cleopatra/s01

You do understand that riling up right-wing nutjobs is a deliberate marketing strategy? Imagine you're a production company working on a low-budget docudrama for Netflix where you know it will be displayed as just one more UI tile among an endless tsunami of similar low-budget dramas from around the world. Which marketing approach do you think would work better: 1) Make a historically accurate show with the little mo…

There are just as many nut jobs on the left as there are on the right.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok I'll bite, because I must be missing the bus in the last 10 years. Please do tell what propagandas, as in topics, or ideas, Netflix and Disney are pushing and so was Vice? Thanks.

Hehe, are you sure, you want to be filled in on the latest dystopian woke terrorism? It is the usual. They propagate homosexuality, gender identity, feminism. All the bad stuff. Probably also propagation of witchcraft, if you ask more religious opponents. (Seriously, considering Disney as progressive, is very weird in my opinion. And I think the person you replied to, did not actually think Disney is doing Propaganda…

I see. So remakes with women, gay people having roles in TV etc. I guess if you're a religious zealot that would hurt. I miss the days where you had to be intelligent to be on the internet. Sorry, but social media royally fucked up humanity into a polarised war of opinions.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok I'll bite, because I must be missing the bus in the last 10 years. Please do tell what propagandas, as in topics, or ideas, Netflix and Disney are pushing and so was Vice? Thanks.

You missed the bus.

Thanks for confirming! I think it's okay to settle down and watch the same landscape after a while.
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