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Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by blihp »

Mistletoe wrote: post #27
hospitalJail wrote: post #3

> "expectation that companies like yours must make sure their products are safe before making them available to the public." Lets make a guess, they are going to say its dangerous and we need regulation to prevent competitio---terorrism. Here is what you need to do instead, get some smart people from various agencies that are trustworthy, have them use the openAI playground and see what can be accomplished. Then show…

Why are regulations bad? When there are no regulations the results are usually not pretty. Current big tech dystopia, stock market crash of 1929, UK textile mills worked by children in the Industrial Revolution... Why should we expect AI to not repeat the same abuses and errors?

Knee-jerk regulations rooted in emotion and ignorance are bad. When there are bad regulations the results are usually not pretty (i.e. they tend to fail to achieve their stated objectives) and all they end up doing is protect the established players from competition as only they can afford the cost of compliance.

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by zamnos »

rwmj wrote: post #10
mikece wrote: post #7

Political optics over substance: neither the people summoned nor the people summoning understand what AI is.

Does anyone? Things like intelligence, consciousness, alignment etc are open research areas with a lot of noise but barely even agreement on the basics.

By who? The philosophy students are busting a gut at the laughable job we computer scientists are doing, redefining "thinking" and "consciousnesses" from first principles on every HN thread about GPT, as if parts of humanity haven't been pondering and writing books and books about those very questions for centuries, if not millenia.

How many GPTs can fit on the head of a pin?

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Post by etiam »

Wrapping up with

"I think we should be cautious with AI, and I think there should be some government oversight because it is a danger to the public," Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk said last month in a television interview

As one of the few actors having already literally killed people with hyperbolic statements about "AI" in a high-stakes control context, his authority is not as good as it could have been. Maybe Reuters should have picked another face for urging caution.

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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hospitalJail wrote: post #3

> "expectation that companies like yours must make sure their products are safe before making them available to the public." Lets make a guess, they are going to say its dangerous and we need regulation to prevent competitio---terorrism. Here is what you need to do instead, get some smart people from various agencies that are trustworthy, have them use the openAI playground and see what can be accomplished. Then show…

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Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by zamnos »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #40
barelyauser wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But who gets to decide who that person is? Back to square one.

> who gets to decide who that person is Lower bar: suggest a candidate.

Okay, sure. How about Greg gdb Brockman, President & Co-Founder of OpenAI. Remember, we're looking for James Webb, not Robert Oppenheimer, and I think his tenure at OpenAI fits the bill.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/thegdb

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by permo-w »

jjoonathan wrote: post #34
gordian-mind wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies are not the only ones who have something to gain from that exchange. Democratization of AI will also be used to push harsher legislation on the internet, in the guise of fighting "misinformation" (now possibly AI-generated!).

Genuine question: how should we fight LLM astroturfing?

stop using the internet
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