> IT admins are angry
Are they really? We dumped chrome for edge a year ago at the least...
MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#42I don't get the anger, at this point Edge is interchangeable with Chrome. The only thing I "miss" are my saved password and extensions which can be easily imported. Complaining online is an international pastime though.
> at this point Edge is interchangeable with Chrome
Then why would MSFT release Edge at all? maybe they should default to Chrome.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only instance of Apple doing that I’m aware of is the “Search for (term)” in the terminal’s right click menu always defaulting to Safari. In every other instance, they’ve respected the defaults. Microsoft on the other hands seems to have no boundaries, going as far as injecting ads on Chrome’s homepage[1] promoting their browser. [1] https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-now-injecting-full-...
> The only instance of Apple doing that I’m aware of is Not allowing alternative browsers on their most successful platform: iOS also: - EU forced Apple to use USB-C like everybody else - EU is forcing Apple to allow side loading of apps Apple is one of the worst offenders ever when it's about vendor lock in
Levered "most successful platform" in there as the most comparable OS, macOS doesn't do this of course.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#44I don't get the anger, at this point Edge is interchangeable with Chrome. The only thing I "miss" are my saved password and extensions which can be easily imported. Complaining online is an international pastime though.
>Edge is interchangeable with Chrome
Okay. What if I want to use Firefox though?
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#45Nothing to be surprised. So typical of MSFT.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#46I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…
Not to give Microsoft an out here but really? The equivalent for this on iOS or Android would be allowing opening links in a different browser and web view engine. The equivalent Microsoft apps on mobile OSs aren't degraded - they aren't even allowed to exist in the first place. Microsoft is bringing the desktop experience in line with mobile here. Doesn't make it less terrible but contrasting Apple and Google as bet…
Android allows this. Links from the gmail app open in Firefox in my Android phone.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#47Microsoft is shoving their software down people's throats with impunity. Just yesterday I had to install VS Code for a Homebridge integration, and out of nowhere they slapped a Bing search bar bang in the middle of the desktop.
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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#48I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…
> Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't.
They could not, because if they did that cartel suits would be opened within hours. I expect both the US and Europe have such suits ready to go just in case, and Microsoft (hypocritically) has amicus briefs on standby.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#49I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…
> Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile they want to be to its competitors
The last 30 years of MS shows that they are not interested in the non-hostile approach
Few things:
- Microsoft Java Virtual Machine scandal
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anti-competitive behaviour runs deep in Microsoft. They've been doing it since their early days.
> Anti-competitive behaviour runs deep in ~~Microsoft~~ rampant capitalism, especially in the US of A the end goal is always to become a monopolist
Well on paper at least, the US has antitrust laws going back to the Sherman Act and Standard Oil.
Microsoft was basically inches away from being broken up in the late '90s due to their anti-competitive practices.