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What does routing mean in this context?
PCB trace routing
Ergogen lacks the ability to spit out routed PCBs, but the Samoklava repositories shows how to use a KiCad CLI addon to do just that and generate final files ready for fabrication (though you should always inspect them).
I've been too afraid of asking on Reddit. I'd love a split keyboard with an integrated trackball but the community is creating an overwhelming amount of new content and products. I have not been able to find a good entry point. The threads often reference shops, specific people, firmwares or discord communities without going into details. Does anyone happen to know a good resource for how and where to get started tod…
However the board is not yet open source, like many Japanes custom boards.
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They may be normally distributed, but most people have at least one or two outlier parameters that customization could help with. Personally I just suggest going to a keyboard meetup and trying out a bunch of ergos and picking the design you find most comfortable. I lucked into the Mitosis layout in 2017 (literally, I won it in a raffle) and have used it ever since. True endgame.
Could you show the data this statement is based on? |most people have at least one or two outlier parameters that customization could |help with.
https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-...
"Even more surprising, when Daniels averaged all his data, the average hand did not resemble any individual’s measurements. There was no such thing as an average hand size."
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As someone who has made a bunch of keyboards (including hand wiring), I agree that the space is very hard to navigate. Especially since /r/ErgoMechKeyboards/ has gone full "the only ergonomic keyboard is a hand-soldered keyboard that only 50 other people use", while for most people a prebuilt ergo keyboard would be fine and a large improvement over a $15 black slab. What makes it worse is that most designs do no have…
Can you elaborate on the thumb problems from Manuforms? This is the first I’ve heard of them. I’m in the process of building a corne Manuform.
And basically a lot of reports on Reddit. Eg.:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/ubcxup/e... https://old.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/umg2j5/e... https://old.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/lj3n45/p...
Of course, these are just anecdotes and we don't have good research into all the individual designs, but there seems to be a pattern. The movement is also similar to what causes texter's thumb.
At any rate, I am not an ergonomics professional, so if you are switching to a more ergonomic keyboard because you have pains, you should ask and expert what works and what doesn't.
The one thing that keeps me from building my own keyboard is that I’d want a 3D-curved keyboard (similar to the Microsoft ergonomic keyboards), and I haven’t seen anyone tackling such a project yet. Ergogen as well seems to only support “flat” layouts.
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Thank you very much for the detailed response. I'll look at all those options. I've been using a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 for ages and it is slowly disintegrating so I'll need a replacement in the next few years. The quality has been great. It's lasted 15 or so years now. I switched to an optimized keyboard layout (neo2 - German) in 2006 when I had carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands and then also s…
Check out the Feker Alice 98. It just came out (my pre-order arrived just last Friday) and is an excellent modern recreation of my favorite keyboard, the Microsoft Natural line of keyboards from circa 2000. There's a separate model without the numpad, if you don't use that (I do). Complaints? No Home/End. The extra B on the right side is weird. The proximity of the arrow keys means sometimes I hit the left arrow-key…
- Full navigation cluster
- Arrow keys away from the main area
- Ctrl+Shift in line on both sides
- Right-hand Alt key
- Right-hand Windows key and right-hand Windows context key (you don't need both IMO, however having one is useful as you can remap it to be the right-hand version of the one you do use - the MS Natural 4000 is fine)
- Only one B key
- f6 on the left side of the split
For a device that relies so much on muscle memory, you'd think that designers would do a better job of laying theirs out exactly like every other one. But... apparently not?
My search for a replacement continues.
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I really like my regular Kinesis Advantage 2 which does have F-keys although admittedly small ones. I don't use them too much. They are easy to reach which I like though. I think having Ortho layout makes using the numpad on the Kinesis a lot better. The big ergo benefit to me is the thumb clusters and the fact I can remap keys like (),[],{},~ to be easier to press. I have setup the "delete" key on the thumb cluster…
I've found that the best "split" keyboard is simply to use two decent keyboards on the same computer. When I am in a situation where I'm doing tons of typing (not that often anymore) I'll have the two keyboards a bit more than a body width apart. Unfortunately macos doesn't apply modifier keys (shift / meta / ctl) from one device to the other (IE if I press left shift on the left keyboard I don't get a capital L if I…
I have a key layout in mind, and I just want a ready product, not to fiddle with hardware and firmware myself.
The order lot is very tiny of maybe 4-5 pcs.
The layout is quite simple QWERTY, based on Omnikey Ultra T.
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Check out the Feker Alice 98. It just came out (my pre-order arrived just last Friday) and is an excellent modern recreation of my favorite keyboard, the Microsoft Natural line of keyboards from circa 2000. There's a separate model without the numpad, if you don't use that (I do). Complaints? No Home/End. The extra B on the right side is weird. The proximity of the arrow keys means sometimes I hit the left arrow-key…
My ~2000-era MS Natural keyboard has the following. (I keep it in a drawer, as an emergency spare for when I run out of MS Natural 4000s.) - Full navigation cluster - Arrow keys away from the main area - Ctrl+Shift in line on both sides - Right-hand Alt key - Right-hand Windows key and right-hand Windows context key (you don't need both IMO, however having one is useful as you can remap it to be the right-hand versio…
Hahaha! I have the same thing. I've got one original MS Natural still BNIB, and two Elite models each with a lot of mileage on them. I've long been dreading the day that my stash runs dry. Been keeping an eye on keyboard forums for years waiting for a replacement. The popularity of high-end keyboards with the terrible rectangle layout utterly baffles me. Why would someone who cares about keyboards ever choose that layout?
The Alice layout comes close enough to the Natural layout that I think it's a fantastic replacement. My complaints are small enough that I'm already adjusting after just a few hours of usage. I'm just thrilled someone is making a split ergo keyboard with a numpad!!