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Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

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Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

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Noting that the Github repo includes a data pipeline for instruction fine tunining. What's the difference between this and other data pipelines like Alpaca?

Aren't you Greg Diamos, the founder, why are you asking this instead of answering?

This was a frequently asked question among my friends.

I’m really curious to see how someone who hasn’t been staring at the docs for weeks would explain it.

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

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You can't ask ChatGPT to count something and expect that it can answer correctly, because it does not have counting logic. It is a language model, not a math model. People use this to "prove" hallucinations, but when you ask it something that is within it's programmed abilities, you get something at least close to what you want. Having said that, here are the words ChatGPT gave me for the same prompt: Magi Nagi Sagi…

It's true that ChatGPT is not designed for counting and struggles with it in general. But my point was that ChatGPT, like any tokenized LLM, doesn't even have the concept of letters. The prompt "how many e's in this sentence" is rendered as the tokens [4919, 867, 304, 338, 287, 428, 6827]. There just isn't a pathway for it to consider the letters that make up those tokens. I'm a little surprised it did that well on y…

In a prompt, can you just tell the model which letters make up each token? Eg a list of ag = a g etc. I imagine a dictionary of that for all tokens in the training data would help.

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

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It's a fair criticism, and ChatGPT does better, but this isn't a great test of model quality. All LLMS that rely on tokenization struggle with being introspective on language. Try asking chatGPT to count how many e's are in a sentence, or to list all words that start with "to" and end wide "de". I haven't heard anyone describe the phenomenon clearly, but I expect it is a challenge with reasoning over both intent of t…

You can't ask ChatGPT to count something and expect that it can answer correctly, because it does not have counting logic. It is a language model, not a math model. People use this to "prove" hallucinations, but when you ask it something that is within it's programmed abilities, you get something at least close to what you want. Having said that, here are the words ChatGPT gave me for the same prompt: Magi Nagi Sagi…

Chat GPT does have counting logic. The math model is encoded inside of the language model.

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

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Could you not have at least Googled the word before speaking against it? https://www.google.com/search?q=stagi There are a lot of genuine hits for stagi.

those are either family or brand names. I don’t see it used as a common word in any of the results.

Proper nouns are words. That answers the prompt, right? There was no mention of "common" in the prompt. If there was, the list of words I got with the same prompt on ChatGPT would have been a lot shorter.

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

#45
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't ask ChatGPT to count something and expect that it can answer correctly, because it does not have counting logic. It is a language model, not a math model. People use this to "prove" hallucinations, but when you ask it something that is within it's programmed abilities, you get something at least close to what you want. Having said that, here are the words ChatGPT gave me for the same prompt: Magi Nagi Sagi…

Chat GPT does have counting logic. The math model is encoded inside of the language model.

This needs citation. These are not the same things. It will get numerical references right if it has sources used in the model, but it isn't doing any numerical calculations.

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

#46
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Congrats! I went to your demo and asked for words that end in agi. This is what I got: -- agi, agi, agi, agi, agi, agi, agi These are some of the words that end in agi. You can also use the word agi in a sentence. For example, "I am going to the grocery store to get some agi." These are some of words that end in agi. These are some words that end in agi. maximize, maximize, maximize, maximize, maximize, maximize, max…

It's a fair criticism, and ChatGPT does better, but this isn't a great test of model quality. All LLMS that rely on tokenization struggle with being introspective on language. Try asking chatGPT to count how many e's are in a sentence, or to list all words that start with "to" and end wide "de". I haven't heard anyone describe the phenomenon clearly, but I expect it is a challenge with reasoning over both intent of t…

well, here we go, ChatGPT in GPT-4 mode:

There are 7 instances of the letter 'e' in the sentence: "Try asking chatGPT to count how many e's are in a sentence."

another one:

The words with the letter 'e' from the sentence "Try asking chatGPT to count how many e's are in a sentence" are:

    asking
    sentence
and another, notice the last one:

Here are some English words containing three instances of the letter 'e':

    Nevertheless
    Extreme
    Relevance
    Precedence
    Residence
    Easement
    Demeanor
Please note that this is not an exhaustive list, but these examples should give you an idea of words with three 'e's in them.

What surprising here is that it's still capable of writing hundred lines of python code..

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true that ChatGPT is not designed for counting and struggles with it in general. But my point was that ChatGPT, like any tokenized LLM, doesn't even have the concept of letters. The prompt "how many e's in this sentence" is rendered as the tokens [4919, 867, 304, 338, 287, 428, 6827]. There just isn't a pathway for it to consider the letters that make up those tokens. I'm a little surprised it did that well on y…

In a prompt, can you just tell the model which letters make up each token? Eg a list of ag = a g etc. I imagine a dictionary of that for all tokens in the training data would help.

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Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

#48
post #39

This headline is totally editorializing. Stick with the source one. “Introducing Lamini, the LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models” So much click bait in the LLM space.

Is it still editorialising when OP is the CEO of the company?

Yes

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

#49
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To be fair the question did not specify the language and included a disclaimer about it.

Even if you don't consider an Italian word as a word: It's a last name. It's a brand name. It is several companies' name. It belongs in the list just fine.

It seems you agree with me, I do not understand. Wrong thread maybe you replied to?

Re: Launch Lamini: The LLM Engine for Rapidly Customizing Models as Good as ChatGPT

#50
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chat GPT does have counting logic. The math model is encoded inside of the language model.

This needs citation. These are not the same things. It will get numerical references right if it has sources used in the model, but it isn't doing any numerical calculations.

Just look at any papers that put models through mathematical benchmarks. The model isn't memorizing these problems. For example I just generated 2 random 64 bit integers and asked ChatGPT to add them.

"6769545085823578960 + 16027170449476717488"

ChatGPT said the answer is 22796715535300296448. It got the correct answer even though the problem wasn't in its training data.

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