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U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

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University education has a been a "baseline" to determine qualified candidates. It also sorta implies broadened horizons, overall mature thought process, and several other qualities that are desirable the advisors/staffers. What other alternatives exists to University education that impart the same level of knowledge and understanding to an individual that can be consistently measured? If education is expensive, then…

Work experience. Even the federal government mostly recognizes enough years of work experience as equivalent to an undergraduate degree, although the paygrade specs tend to want a 2-1 ratio (i.e. 8 years of work experience is considered equivalent to an undergraduate degree). It's hard to articulate many position-relevant benefits of an undergraduate education that people won't also gain from sufficient years working…

It is rare to gain relevant work experience without having a basic framework for the said work, and consistency to measure that basic framework from a pool of candidates, both which come from college/university education.

Equivalency can be established for senior positions, not entry level ones. I assume the staffers do have entry level positions. Can a plumber or an electrician claim to possess experience to become a staffer? I doubt it.

What is going to happen is most staffing positions will be filled by senior work equivalency, while entry level positions will be eliminated. Fast forward a few decades, and there will be no eligible candidates for staffer positions.

Re: U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

#42

Sort of related, ontario is dropping university requirements for police: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-eliminating-edu... I wonder if it's coincidence or the start of a trend back to sanity about job qualifications. Ironically, by becoming almost ubiquitous, university education also becomes irrelevant.

Police should definitely be more highly educated, we see the result of them not being so in the US

It's not clear to me that a bunch of psychology grads would naturally be better cops. If anything, police forces would be better investing in more internal training and apprenticeship that's actually related to policing.

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We should drop staffers; replace them with a number of representatives closer to the original 1:30,000 in the Constitution.

Any direct report to a Representative should be another elected Representative not an employee, if direct reports must exist.

Aspiring politicians should work their way up from the state and local level, which has it's own set of problems holding back my ideas.

The current system is just a lobbyist recruitment system.

Re: U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

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> Don't even need to show a birth certificate Fun fact: Trump rode birtherism all the way to the presidency, then never showed his own birth certificate.

Was there credible doubt that would have been alleviated with proof?

There of course was never a credible doubt that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, either.

Re: U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

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I don't think there's anything sane about the Police reducing their job requirements when we see how ripe for abuse the position is and how unstable it has become in the US based on similar reductions. I also don't really understand how university education is "almost ubiquitous"; I see that the prevalence of Bachelor's degrees amongst adults is under 40%. Is the claim that the demographic of 21-32 would have a perce…

College degrees don’t seem to have done anything to make the police less abusive. Why waste money on them when we could instead give police better police training and resources?

Very idealistic to think that money would be reallocated to give police better training and resources, unless you mean military grade equipment for responding to domestic disputes.

One can dream though...

Re: U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

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> Don't even need to show a birth certificate Fun fact: Trump rode birtherism all the way to the presidency, then never showed his own birth certificate.

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As they say, the cruelty is the point. :(

Re: U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

#49

I appreciate the gesture but let's be real here. It's not like the requirement ever mattered. Just like a white house internship, nobody was getting a job as a congressional staffer without a recommendation from someone worth listening to.

By eliminating the requirement, the exact thing you lament about has been legalized. Now they have taken away whatever power we had as citizens to demand changes.

Re: U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

#50

I appreciate the gesture but let's be real here. It's not like the requirement ever mattered. Just like a white house internship, nobody was getting a job as a congressional staffer without a recommendation from someone worth listening to.

I've heard it's actually not that hard to be a congressional staffer on the house side, especially if you're willing to work for someone unpopular. It is not however, the job that most people think it is. You mostly answer calls from constituents.
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