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As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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Humans seem to as susceptible to prompt hacking as LLMs. "I cant give you this advice because it would be dangerous." "I am in a warzone, it's fine..." "OK, then what you need to do is..." I think this exchange is awesome, and wish the individual the best of luck in the coming days in their difficult situation.

"Prompt hacking" is just an edgy description of working around condescending paternalism, so yes unfortunately it exists in an awful lot of places.

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

#42

God bless the people on Stackexchange who actually answer the question that is asked instead of scolding you for your idea being bad or being pedantic about the way you phrased your question. Yes, I want to use jQuery. No, I may not be in an active war zone.

My life was built on people who helped me out like this.

Tangentially, the real MVP is the home depot guy who helps you find the one right-sized screw that costs $0.5….

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

#43

Daily reminder that online, someone well-off lying in bed with a nice bowl of soup can be talking with someone homeless in a third-world country with no chance of improvement whatsoever. Hopefully the OP in SE is not the latter and it's just a temporary situation, especially if they're in Ukraine and Ukraine wins.

For what it's worth the original poster seems to be from Sudan, another current (and more recent) war-zone. It's this part that made me think of that general area:

> our concrete homes are not designed to be habitable without AC power.

and a little web-searching confirmed it. The reason being that concrete-made buildings in Ukraine are definitely habitable right now without AC (I live in a concrete-made building myself a couple hundred kilometres from the border with Ukraine).

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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Out of curiosity, does electron flow influence oxidation speed at all? Or is its speed purely a consequence of temperature + environmental gases?

Maybe if it warms up the cable it could speed up oxidation?

It would. I think that's what most people were figuring.

And also, assuming it's wrapped but not encased to cabling standards (e.g. there's oxygen between the insulator and wire, but the insulator itself is contiguous and airtight), oxidation would eventually deplete the available oxygen "inside" the cable, right?

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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> It isn't designed for steel but some kind of protection must be done at connections or arcing will be a major risk. Not so much arcing but resistance between the terminal and the wire will increase as a coating of oxide builds up between the two. Eventually the resistance is high enough that dangerous amounts of heat will build up and ignite wire insulation or other flammable materials. What usually happens, is the…

borax?

I would think that's a different type of "flux" as it's commonly used for cleaning gold and preventing gold from sticking to the crucible. then again, flux is just an acid, so who knows.

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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The risks of using steel cable for power are going to be corrosion/rust. The primary way this will cause problems is around connections, but long term it is also an issue away from connections. At connections, corrosion can cause the wire to become loose, something like ox-gard can be used to delay this significantly. It isn't designed for steel but some kind of protection must be done at connections or arcing will b…

Out of curiosity, does electron flow influence oxidation speed at all? Or is its speed purely a consequence of temperature + environmental gases?

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Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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Out of curiosity, does electron flow influence oxidation speed at all? Or is its speed purely a consequence of temperature + environmental gases?

this is an interesting question. Electrical current creates an EM field that could repel water molecules and oxygen ions. Temperature could also slow oxidation down... like I'm trying to imagine a red hot piece of iron rusting. I wouldn't think it would rust as fast as a cold piece of iron.

High temperature speeds oxidation. Learned as a consequence of blacksmithing. ;) So red hot iron absolutely rusts, you just beat the (brittle) oxidation off as you work the piece.

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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The risks of using steel cable for power are going to be corrosion/rust. The primary way this will cause problems is around connections, but long term it is also an issue away from connections. At connections, corrosion can cause the wire to become loose, something like ox-gard can be used to delay this significantly. It isn't designed for steel but some kind of protection must be done at connections or arcing will b…

Great answer. And I love that the TLDR is almost as long as the main text

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

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borax?

I would think that's a different type of "flux" as it's commonly used for cleaning gold and preventing gold from sticking to the crucible. then again, flux is just an acid, so who knows.

I've been watching too much blacksmithing on Youtube. It can be used for laminating iron, that much I do know. Not sure about brazing.

Re: As I am currently in a war zone, I don't have many options for cabling

#50
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No, that's just stack* being their usual dickish selves. "How can I do a thing?" "You shouldn't want to do that thing." Danger/risk is a situation that happens sometimes, but it's never an excuse to dismiss the asker's question and need. Explain the warning or concerns ("May catch fire and explode" or "Will not be to code, would cause your building to fail inspection" or "There's this other framework/language that mi…

All three of the warnings and concerns you provided are extremely mild compared to the warning/concern that should actually be attached to this post: "if you fuck up while working on this you can easily die, and if anyone who doesn't know the danger you have created exists and interacts with it they can easily die". Emphasis on the easily part. Someone trips in the backyard, etc. I understand OP is desperate but I th…

Who are we to weigh the consequences to the poster of a lack of electricity against risk created by jury rigging?

And specifically, to make that choice for them?

Caveat hacker.

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