We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

Post by derefr » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 12:55 AM UTC

emacdona wrote: post #22

duskwuff wrote: post #15

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> If you want to "stop pirates", make it easy for them to give you money and watch their favorite sport. I don't disagree, but that isn't something Mux is in a position to do. They just provide video streaming infrastructure -- they're in no position to demand that various sports broadcast rightsholders change their policies.

That's fair. My main objection is labeling _everyone_ as "pirates". Technically, yes, they are pirating the steam. But some of those people are also PAYING to watch plenty of games in whatever sport they are "pirating" streams for. Calling these people "pirates" fails to acknowledge that they are also "paying customers" who are frustrated with how complicated it has become to pay for the product they want to watch.

Post by peruvian » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 12:57 AM UTC

esharte wrote: post #31

emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

If you lived in the UK, supported Tottenham and wanted to watch all their games in the 2021/22 season you had to: Subscribe to Sky Sports (around £50-60 a month) for the Premier League games. Subscribe to BT Sports (30 a month) for the Saturday early kick off Premier League games and the Europa Conference League games. Subscribe to Amazon Prime for the 3 random weeks when they are showing the Premier League games ins…

Post by seb1204 » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

TulliusCicero wrote: post #25

duskwuff wrote: post #15

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> If you want to "stop pirates", make it easy for them to give you money and watch their favorite sport. I don't disagree, but that isn't something Mux is in a position to do. They just provide video streaming infrastructure -- they're in no position to demand that various sports broadcast rightsholders change their policies.

Fair, but that's not the consumer's problem either. Gaben is right. Piracy is a service problem.

Post by lotsofpulp » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 1:05 AM UTC

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

There's a common polycule meme where every new member pays for a different digital media subscription service and it's shared between everyone. If you get together with a few friends it's possible to split the costs of all these services. If you're sufficiently tech savvy, each person can run a VPN from their home so it doesn't look suspicious from the streaming service's end. Here's a video showing how to do this wi…

Post by emacdona » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 1:06 AM UTC

emacdona wrote: post #44

NikolaNovak wrote: post #42

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Surprisingly world rally championship is also amazing with this. A very affordable subscription to wrc+ gets you live coverage, summarized coverage, highlights, specials, historical reviews, as much content as you'd want really!

I was actually considering becoming a WRC fan... especially after I was watching some YouTube highlights and saw that Cyril Abiteboul is a team principal! Where do I subscribe? And... you promise that it's similar to F1 -- where I pay one company one price and get all the content?? :-)