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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#42

Isn't it true for even over the counter drugs and even foods that they can fuck you up if you are predisposed to have an issue with the substance? Why would LSD be any different. It's like getting mad at people promoting peanuts because some people die if they eat them.

You're surely joking when comparing LSD to foods, right?

Please name one single food that can bring down all your psychological defence mechanisms in one go.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#43
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Both those trip reports are very unusual for psylocibin and LSD. It looks to me that the author might have other health complications that caused the bad trips. As a general advice one should be very careful when taking psychedelics with other prescribed medications or having a history of mental illness.

I don’t think they’re that unusual. I think there’s a major bias on the internet toward only allowing/supporting positive stories. Negative stories attract a lot of people trying to explain it away as due to underlying mental illness or some other generic explanation (which is inevitably so generic that it could apply to any user)

It seems every negative psychedelic anecdote on HN is met with commenters that are resistant to the idea that the drug could possibly be negative for someone.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#44

Had a somewhat similar experience. Irritating how harmless and positive psychedelics and cannabis are made out to be in popular culture in spite of the issues like these that can cause.

Makes me wonder if a counterpoint to adopting almost anything will arise with 1 million people having the ability to obtain a drug with ease instead of 10,000 people that are forced to jump through a lot of hoops and navigate a specific kind of closed drug culture to come out changed for the better. When there's a 0.0001% chance of years-long negative effects, that's a lot more people making up the minority. Safety regulations are always written in blood. I think there will only be pushback when, ironically, enough people are convinced that we should finally legalize these drugs for millions of people to use, and that 0.0001% minority grows loud enough.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#45
Lots of published scientific literature backs up the positive benefits that many people experience. This guy sounds like a tweaker who generated more of these effects from his own paranoia than from the actual experience, but anyways I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and encourage anyone trying a new substance to appreciate the possibilities. Anecdotal stories should be balanced against data though, and just by the tone of his writing this author seems to have a lot of baggage.

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Seems like it got the hug of death. Just based on the headline, I disagree. If you have a genetic propensity for schizophrenia or things like that then yes, avoid it. But for the vast majority of LSD users it’s a transformative experience. Drinking alcohol is socially accepted but tens of millions of Americans have some sort of diagnosed use disorder with it and almost 100k people died last year to drinking. Do we sa…

> If you have a genetic propensity for schizophrenia How would you know until something triggers it? Getting permanently mindfucked from LSD is an awful way to discover this.

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#48
Thousands, if not millions, of people in India and increasingly across the world take Indian ginseng aka ashwagandha for anxiety and other psyche problems. My wife ate several kilos of the stuff during her BSc programme; it helped her with exams and general stress. At some point I was very anxious for a perfectly valid exogenous reason, and she recommended I take it. Three pills in (recommended daily dose, taken over the whole day), my liver briefly shut down, and I spend a week in hospital, recovering and educating doctors about five or six published cases of this phenomenon we found on PubMed. Later I found many more in Amazon reviews. Ashwagandha is world-wide legal, over-the-counter food supplement. But you’ve been warned.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#49

I think it's useful to consider this blog post as an anecdotal experience of someone who had a significant, traumatic experience with LSD for which they were entirely socially unprepared for even when those those experiences seemed to be known among those who take LSD (no one expressed surprise or confusion at their condition in their group). There is plenty of questions to ask here: why didn't this person's friends…

I've noticed this pattern where "anecdote" is deployed when someone disagrees with some point another person is making. But would you be chiming in here about "anecdotes" if this was a post by someone claiming acid helped them?

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#50
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Both those trip reports are very unusual for psylocibin and LSD. It looks to me that the author might have other health complications that caused the bad trips. As a general advice one should be very careful when taking psychedelics with other prescribed medications or having a history of mental illness.

Or they took something that was presented as LSD but was actually something else. This sounds like the kind of nerve damage people get from taking dangerous doses of MDMA. Not saying it's MDMA specifically but it could have been something neurotoxic.

Their experience sounded nothing like MDMA. And some small group of "lucky" people do have similar after-effects from LSD or even mushrooms (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_percep... ).

I have no reason to think it wasn't LSD, but there's also a decent possibility it was something else passed off as LSD, which is a fun consequence of the war on drugs.

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