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Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by nelox »

The OP states “the reason I tell all my CTO coachees they need everything in writing from their boss in their contract, a new boss will probably only honor what is written down, not spoken promises.”

However, he seems to have ignored his own advice and not understood the ManyCam EULA.

“… This license is in effect until one of the parties terminates the license. You may terminate the license by no longer using the ManyCam software or web services. Visicom Media Inc may terminate the license at any time for any reason. Visicom Media Inc may change this software license agreement at any time. The license agreement may also be terminated if you violate any of the terms and conditions of this agreement.”

“… ManyCam may change from a free service to a pay service at any time and vice versa, and may change its pricing structure at any time in any way. ManyCam may discontinue its service at any time for any reason. ManyCam may charge for any support. ManyCam may limit software features or access to certain parts of the ManyCam website with no warning or notice and with no liability. ManyCam may stop service either temporarily or finally any time for any reason with no warning or notice and with no liability.“

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Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by KMnO4 »

planede wrote: post #5

Isn't this just breach of contract, plain and simple? Change of ownership should have little to do with it.

I imagine this is one of those extremely common situations where the law doesn’t matter. Even if you are entitled to some compensation, how are you going to get it?

The only recourse is taking them to court which will end up costing your time, money, and sanity.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by flrngbl »

MrGilbert wrote: post #15

Happy Scale, a weight tracking app I really enjoy, had the opposite example: I bought a full license for some bucks some years ago, and later they decided to switch to a subscription based model to ensure funding. Instead of going the "hey, here is a new version of the app, you need to subscribe now", they explicitly included a thank-you note directed at everyone that bought the "Premium In-App Purchase" at the begin…

Ultimate Guitar did something similar. The premium account that I bought almost a decade ago got transformed into a free and unlimited premium subscription when they changed their business model some years ago.

Overall that worked out pretty well for me, because the new model includes a ton more than what I paid for initially.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by Kbelicius »

Tepix wrote: post #35
Kbelicius wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> NFT has entered the chat. And how would they help in this situation?

In practice after a few months the web server hosting your NFT's image goes down and it's broken.

Oh I understand that. The server doesn't even need to go down, a specific NFT can simply be blacklisted. I was asking to see if there is something I'm missing.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by nebula8804 »

qikInNdOutReply wrote: post #12

The problem with such betrayal is, that companies names are all but smoke and mirrors by now. The reputational damage should be tracking with the leading employees. One customer betrayal travels along with the manager who caused it, to whatever company s/he touches. No matter how the company is named, no matter how much branding, one linked in api roll call later you know what you got.

This is a great idea! A while back I had an idea to maybe scrape Linkedin(or download one of their numerous dumps) to help "track" executive movement from company to company and set alerts if I use products from the new company so I can have a heads up before they inevitably turn to shit. Alternatively, I was also looking to expand this to when companies get bought out by those vulture capital "management" firms as they will start to squeeze costs. The Hackers of the 90s dreamed about software being an equalizing force between the powerful and the powerless...well this is one area that can definitely help(at least in the short term).

Your idea sounds like something that independent journalism can pick up or some non profit organization that exposes these kinds of things. Of course I'm sure someone will go after them sooner or later.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by Graziano_M »

nelox wrote: post #41

The OP states “the reason I tell all my CTO coachees they need everything in writing from their boss in their contract, a new boss will probably only honor what is written down, not spoken promises.” However, he seems to have ignored his own advice and not understood the ManyCam EULA. “… This license is in effect until one of the parties terminates the license. You may terminate the license by no longer using the Man…

Visicom is the new owner, right? So that's a new policy, as in not the one he agreed to when he signed up for a lifetime license.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by RajT88 »

xattt wrote: post #3

Wondering the last few years how long my Plex lifetime pass will last now.

I bought lifetime licenses for the other competitors of Plex: TVersity, PlayOn, Twonky.

Twonky currently is the only one I'm using, but all of them seem to respect the lifetime licenses! They've moved on to newer versions which use subscription models, so I don't get new features. Twonky still offers old version downloads (which is nice), but I'm not sure the others do.

Honestly, I'm not sure I need any of this software anymore now that VLC is available on Android, Xbox, etc. and supports reading off SMB shares.

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