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Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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This article is missing so many technical details. Would have been so interesting to dig into the "why" and "how".

Could just be in the center of whatever radius the system spits out from cell tower triangulation, I assume? Or something similar. The technical details would be fun.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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In what state is it legal to kill people for stealing your stuff?

I’m fairly certain it is legal to shoot people on your property just for being on your property in some states. I don’t know about finding somebody and “protecting” your property somewhere else.

I think you’re spreading misinformation. I hope it’s not intentional.

There is not a single state in the US where it is legal to shoot someone just for being on your property.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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They’re responsible for the final product no matter what databases they use.

https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/locate-a-device-mmfc0... Note: Maps and location information depend on data collection services provided by third parties. These services are subject to change and may not be available in all geographic areas, resulting in inaccurate or incomplete maps or location information.

That’s irrelevant. If the databases are the source of the problem and if the problem is that they’re inaccurate the onus is on them to ensure the correctness of the data so one guy and his family are not getting harassed at their home because of Apple’s software.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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In what state is it legal to kill people for stealing your stuff?

While it probably wouldn’t apply in this specific case, in Texas the Castle Doctrine describes circumstances where one could apply lethal force to defend one’s property

Can you explain how this has any relevance at all to going to someone else’s house and killing them because you wrongly think your cellphone is somewhere nearby?

As far as I can see the person who I was replying to is simply making this up.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/locate-a-device-mmfc0... Note: Maps and location information depend on data collection services provided by third parties. These services are subject to change and may not be available in all geographic areas, resulting in inaccurate or incomplete maps or location information.

That’s irrelevant. If the databases are the source of the problem and if the problem is that they’re inaccurate the onus is on them to ensure the correctness of the data so one guy and his family are not getting harassed at their home because of Apple’s software.

Apple doesn't even know what the data is.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35497539

  The interaction is end-to-end encrypted, and Apple cannot see the location of any offline device or reporting device. When your device participates in the Find My network, it can both be located by the network and anonymously help locate other missing devices.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/locate-a-device-mmfc0... Note: Maps and location information depend on data collection services provided by third parties. These services are subject to change and may not be available in all geographic areas, resulting in inaccurate or incomplete maps or location information.

How does this help the guy who due to Apple services is having angry people turning up?

What is the purpose of this thread?

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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I’m curious why you imagine anyone is expecting that?

Because you said "Expecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable." - given the journalist did not have an answer, it implies you think the journalist should have had an answer before publishing

How is that relevant to Sangeeth69’s comment?

There doesn’t seem to be any connection between what they said and what I said.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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That’s irrelevant. If the databases are the source of the problem and if the problem is that they’re inaccurate the onus is on them to ensure the correctness of the data so one guy and his family are not getting harassed at their home because of Apple’s software.

Apple doesn't even know what the data is. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35497539 The interaction is end-to-end encrypted, and Apple cannot see the location of any offline device or reporting device. When your device participates in the Find My network, it can both be located by the network and anonymously help locate other missing devices.

That’s between them and their vendors. Not knowing what the problem is doesn’t make them not responsible.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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Because you said "Expecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable." - given the journalist did not have an answer, it implies you think the journalist should have had an answer before publishing

How is that relevant to Sangeeth69’s comment? There doesn’t seem to be any connection between what they said and what I said.

You said "Expecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable.", implying it was reasonable to ask journalists to have an answer to the Q in the article. Sangeeth disagrees with you.

Re: Dad says glitch in ‘Find My iPhone’ app directs angry strangers to his home

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How is that relevant to Sangeeth69’s comment? There doesn’t seem to be any connection between what they said and what I said.

You said "Expecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable.", implying it was reasonable to ask journalists to have an answer to the Q in the article. Sangeeth disagrees with you.

I don’t think so.

Can you quote something that Sangeeth wrote that indicates how they disagree with me?

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