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Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Yeah I don't understand why people hate them so much either. I think they look nice too. Better than old-fashioned windmills. Where I'm from in the Netherlands there's is much less resistance to them anyway because we know the alternative is for our country to be under the sea ;)

People just hate change source: am people Not a blanket statement to say all change is good tho

I've corroborated this by reading the fictional book Don Quixote

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Don_Quij...

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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I feel like it might look quite cool if it was patched with new copper (at least if it was done well). A bit like kintsugi pottery.

Often the kind of thing people hate for a while, and then with enough time becomes iconic and you'd probably end up with an article about how they were debating whether to preserve it or not as it aged. I think about this a lot when it comes to "eyesores", particularly wind turbines. When you think of how windmills are considered picturesque, it always makes me a little surprised when people moan about modern wind ge…

They are obnoxious at night when a large cluster of them are all flashing their warning lights.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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I’m currently reading the book this site referenced, “The idea factory” a wonderful account on Bell Labs with portraits of Shockley, Shannon and the other fathers of the information age.

It's very "Bell Labs" for them to be given a vaguely defined problem (So I hear you know a lot about copper.), immediately recognize that the solution is more complicated than it was suggested (Can you artificially weather copper so it looks 100 years old?), but rather than merely reject the idea instead come up with an alternate and unexpected solution that does what they wanted in the first place but didn't know how to ask. (No but 20-year aged copper looks the same as 100-year old.) Bonus points for making use of leftover parts they had lying around anyway.

That said, why did they go to Bell Labs rather than a building constructor in the first place? It's not like copper is an exotic material. Did the NPS just completely forget that people had been using copper on roofs for centuries... excuse me, millennia.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Often the kind of thing people hate for a while, and then with enough time becomes iconic and you'd probably end up with an article about how they were debating whether to preserve it or not as it aged. I think about this a lot when it comes to "eyesores", particularly wind turbines. When you think of how windmills are considered picturesque, it always makes me a little surprised when people moan about modern wind ge…

They are obnoxious at night when a large cluster of them are all flashing their warning lights.

Here are some gif showing the effect: https://www.nrk.no/nordland/mdg-mener-vindturbin-i-vindpark-...

The article is in Norwegian, but look at the pictures. It must be stressful to have all those read warning lights blinking all night.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Often the kind of thing people hate for a while, and then with enough time becomes iconic and you'd probably end up with an article about how they were debating whether to preserve it or not as it aged. I think about this a lot when it comes to "eyesores", particularly wind turbines. When you think of how windmills are considered picturesque, it always makes me a little surprised when people moan about modern wind ge…

Yeah I don't understand why people hate them so much either. I think they look nice too. Better than old-fashioned windmills. Where I'm from in the Netherlands there's is much less resistance to them anyway because we know the alternative is for our country to be under the sea ;)

It's not so much a wind turbine, as when you have dozens or hundreds of them in view at the same time.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't understand why people hate them so much either. I think they look nice too. Better than old-fashioned windmills. Where I'm from in the Netherlands there's is much less resistance to them anyway because we know the alternative is for our country to be under the sea ;)

People just hate change source: am people Not a blanket statement to say all change is good tho

I find Americans really don't like change. Still using a penny, still using dollar bills, not using the metric system, still using Fahrenheit.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Some of them kill a lot of birds and bats. On top of that, they of course need access roads for maintenance crews to come do their thing once in a while, if located in a former pristine environment that isn't ideal. To say nothing of when the construction actually takes place, again, if it all happens in a pristine location then it's not ok.

House cats kill an order of magnitude more birds and bats than windmills. Practically no one calls domestic cats ugly, or suggests to ban them. Access roads required for wind generator maintenance are neither large nor busy: there's no fuel to bring, and no ash to take away.

I hope people don't let their cat go to outside. problems are problems.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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House cats kill an order of magnitude more birds and bats than windmills. Practically no one calls domestic cats ugly, or suggests to ban them. Access roads required for wind generator maintenance are neither large nor busy: there's no fuel to bring, and no ash to take away.

I hope people don't let their cat go to outside. problems are problems.

Cats belong outside where possible. And birds have predators, it's just nature.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Yeah I don't understand why people hate them so much either. I think they look nice too. Better than old-fashioned windmills. Where I'm from in the Netherlands there's is much less resistance to them anyway because we know the alternative is for our country to be under the sea ;)

Some of them kill a lot of birds and bats. On top of that, they of course need access roads for maintenance crews to come do their thing once in a while, if located in a former pristine environment that isn't ideal. To say nothing of when the construction actually takes place, again, if it all happens in a pristine location then it's not ok.

I've always been suspect of the 'kills birds' argument. I lived near some turbines on an extremely windy coast, and never EVER saw any dead birds anywhere near it.

Daily cleaning up the evidence with ruthless efficiency or just FUD by the NIMBYs?

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