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Re: Year of the storm

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Post by microtonal »

masklinn wrote: post #39
microtonal wrote: post #9

It is sad, but I cannot read this blog post. The Dutch equivalent of the RIAA/MPAA, named Brein, sued two of the major Dutch ISPs for not blocking access to The Pirate Bay. Brein won the court case, and the judge required these ISPs to block The Pirate Bay starting yesterday. Now I am met with this when visiting thepiratebay.se: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/blokkade.png/ Internet censorship is now real in…

Does http://www.depiraatbaai.be/ work? It's an address they've put in place due to court-ordered belgian ISP DNS blocks on about 20 of TPB's addresses.

It is blocked. Xs4all provides a list of DNS and IP address blocks:

http://www.xs4all.nl/geblokkeerd/

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by toyg »

iwwr wrote: post #2

TPB have made themselves a kind of bastion against the copyright rentseekers by being a visible and hard to quash target. The kind of money and effort wasted against them is impressive. Of course, what this verdict establishes is a precedent for hashes having the same status as the original copyrighted content.

in Sweden. AFAIK, the EU court still hasn't spoken on this. They'll have to get similar verdicts in all member states, which they may or may not get, and then from the EU, before it's actually effective. As it is, for example, I could see a challenge brought to the EU court on the basis of restriction of trade between Sweden and other member states, as soon as one server is based in, say, Germany or any other member state.

It's a long, log way to Tipperary, and this battle is far from over. "Normal" people are getting more and more pissed off; it will take a generation to undo the disasters the Boomers are doing to our world, but it will happen.

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by toyg »

VonLipwig wrote: post #34

Hmm. """What binds us all together is a strong belief that what we do is good.""" What is 'good' about the pirate bay? A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content? The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up. They aren't on any mission. They are just raking in money at other people's expense. """Our 3 friends and blood brothers…

A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content

[citation needed]

The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up.

The Pirate Bay exists to make it possible for people to share content, but bandwidth and infrastructure is not free.

The pirate bay is such a target because the people who run it humiliate and insult people with very deep pockets.

And? Is it written anywhere that people with deep pockets should not be insulted? If anything, their position of privilege should make them less prone to knee-jerk reactions.

They aren't victims, they enjoy the attention.

I think you should talk to your analyst about that complex, hating extrovert people is quite the negative attitude.

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by bad_user »

DanBC wrote: post #27
bad_user wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get what your point is - do they need a greater and nobler political purpose other than giving access to whatever people want? Also, Microsoft Office is extremely expensive for people in third-world countries. Pointing people to free alternatives that aren't fully compatible and that have a different interface is not the answer. Microsoft's Office is required for most corporate documents and it is assumed whe…

NO. If a product supplier prices themselves out of the market that's exactly the time when people should be pointing to Libre Office.

Who are you to say that? When it comes to a defacto standard that's not a choice everybody can make.

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by masklinn »

microtonal wrote: post #41
masklinn wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does http://www.depiraatbaai.be/ work? It's an address they've put in place due to court-ordered belgian ISP DNS blocks on about 20 of TPB's addresses.

It is blocked. Xs4all provides a list of DNS and IP address blocks: http://www.xs4all.nl/geblokkeerd/

Ah, they do IP-level block. Belgian ISPs were only mandated to perform DNS blocks (on ~20 domains) so a new domain name is sufficient to route around them.

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by absentbird »

VMG wrote: post #30
bad_user wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get what your point is - do they need a greater and nobler political purpose other than giving access to whatever people want? Also, Microsoft Office is extremely expensive for people in third-world countries. Pointing people to free alternatives that aren't fully compatible and that have a different interface is not the answer. Microsoft's Office is required for most corporate documents and it is assumed whe…

I don't get what your point is - do they need a greater and nobler political purpose other than giving access to whatever people want? They are misrepresenting themselves. Further, if they really had free speech and helping suppressed peoples in mind, they would remove most of their infringing content and provide a platform that can't be attacked on grounds of copyright infringement.

Well Wikileaks didn't have copyright infringement claims against it and it has suffered massive blows to funding and traffic.

TPB exists because people care about it. People care about it because it provides something relevant to them.

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by absentbird »

JonnieCache wrote: post #40

In this year of the storm, the winners will build windmills and the losers will raise shelters. I like this a lot. Is it a paraphrase or a quotation of something? EDIT: apparently its a "chinese proverb."

Does that make the copyright lobbyists Don Quixote?

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by rickmb »

wladimir wrote: post #37
rickmb wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which does absolutely fuck all as soon as the magic word "piracy" appears. They're barely acknowledging this is happening. Ask yourself: what has BoF done for us lately? Or ever?

what has BoF done for us lately? Or ever? Educate people about the need for internet freedom / privacy, which is a good way to get broader popular support.

Educate who?

BoF barely communicates externally besides preaching to the choir. Lobbying seems to be limited to relatively powerless left-wing opposition politicians. Getting broader support is exactly what they very much don't do.

And so far the result has been exactly what you would expect: we've been railroaded with measures violating privacy and limiting online freedom, with very little protest.

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by sp332 »

lordlarm wrote: post #25

For those not able to access the site due to ISP-blocking try setting your DNS to 8.8.8.8 and/or 4.4.4.4 (which is Google's DNS server) as they often just block the site in the DNS.

I think that's 8.8.4.4, not 4.4.4.4?

Re: Year of the storm

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Post by VMG »

absentbird wrote: post #46
VMG wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get what your point is - do they need a greater and nobler political purpose other than giving access to whatever people want? They are misrepresenting themselves. Further, if they really had free speech and helping suppressed peoples in mind, they would remove most of their infringing content and provide a platform that can't be attacked on grounds of copyright infringement.

Well Wikileaks didn't have copyright infringement claims against it and it has suffered massive blows to funding and traffic. TPB exists because people care about it. People care about it because it provides something relevant to them.

Then why does TPB mention Syria and North Korea at all?

Why not be honest?

"We exist because people want Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 for free and we can help them"

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