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AI Labs Urged to Pump the Brakes in Open Letter

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

mindcrime wrote: post #34

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35356980 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35356750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35356771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35356499 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35356490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35356390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35355803 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35354565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35353…

Checking through the above:

https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1640910484030255109 Yann LeCun "I did not sign this letter"

I wonder if other names on that letter were faked too.

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Post by Kinrany »

csomar wrote: post #22
andrewstuart wrote: post #12

People are really freaking out about AI aren’t they? Why bother? It’s moving super fast, just wait and see what happens. And even if you could control or regulate it, exactly how would you do that? What would you be regulating/controlling? How would you define it? And why would you want to anyway? The party has just started, if you think the revolution has arrived, your completely wrong - this is just the beginning -…

> People are really freaking out about AI aren’t they? AI touches the domain of software development the most (since we have put a lot of data about it on the Internet). It touches other things too like writing, and design. It doesn't touch things like food delivery, construction, or a farmer. Currently, they happen to be at the lower tier of society. For some reason. Despite the fact that you can't go two days at a…

Logistics and farming seem like poor examples: both can be solved with programming and a little hardware.

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Post by Kinrany »

kromem wrote: post #29
windex wrote: post #13

My bets are that they want to catch up.

Exactly. And while I don't love OpenAI becoming increasingly closed, they really have done an excellent job with alignment that I very much doubt some of the signers of the letter would have. So I'd much rather have the progress in AI continue to be led by a company pursuing caution than by another company that used those 6 months to catch up and take the lead with even less caution. This is very much "out of the fry…

> they really have done an excellent job with alignment

In what way?

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Post by windex »

sj8822 wrote: post #39

The posters here seem to be highly skeptical of the need to regulate emerging AI. I find that pretty disappointing and surprising. Recently, they gave gpt-4 access to a terminal, the internet, and money. And gpt-4 itself is a software (and software in general has bugs, vulnerabilities, etc) black box that is incredibly, unprecedentedly powerful and not fully understood. Part of its training data is almost every known…

Reminds me that fire is dangerous and making it would have been patent-able today. There is no guarantee that once taken away from the masses, AI research wont continue in walled gardens with only the rich, connected, and powerful having access. Had people been egalitarian or safety oriented, a lot of other things wouldn't have been developed, like nukes, robotics& automation, or self driving cars for example. There wouldn't have been billionaires setting up rules for everyone else.

The only reason this is an issue for "them" is that this tech isn't under their complete control and it seems to threaten the rent extraction model in a bunch of other industries.

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Post by fooker »

mechagodzilla wrote: post #20
fooker wrote: post #3

If this sort of prevention didn't work for nuclear weapons it'll not work for anything ever.

This basically worked perfectly with nuclear weapons. Everyone took their development extremely seriously, and we’ve managed to avoid a nuclear apocalypse. If anyone could get on their computer and buy a nuke from Amazon, we would all be dead within the week.

It worked — after destroying two whole cities.
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