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Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by narad »

NameNickHN wrote: post #35
Shank wrote: post #33

+Matt Cutts commented on this particular issue on Google+: https://plus.google.com/109412257237874861202/posts/RpNNBRr6... "I can't easily imagine Jef Poskanzer was click-spamming AdSense, while at the same time I trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. +Jef Poskanzer , I hope someone digs into the case to investigate deeply and reaches out if there's any more info we can share." I have to agree, though…

But what hope is there for people les famous?

It is too sad to notice that Google only serves famous people. All those people who raised their voice on blogs and HN are given priority. What about the people who post on the Google Adsense forums and GAN Forums? Nobody from Google even replies to those legitimate queries.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by franklindholm »

Shank wrote: post #33

+Matt Cutts commented on this particular issue on Google+: https://plus.google.com/109412257237874861202/posts/RpNNBRr6... "I can't easily imagine Jef Poskanzer was click-spamming AdSense, while at the same time I trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. +Jef Poskanzer , I hope someone digs into the case to investigate deeply and reaches out if there's any more info we can share." I have to agree, though…

It disgusts me tremendously that a known name gets this special treatment, in my eyes it only proves how corrupt Google are becoming. If they would have treated Jef Poskanzer exactly like anyone else, that is ignore his obvious innocence and send him a form letter and freezing all of his money, that would have in some way given legitimacy to the claim that they trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. Going out of the way to help someone with a reputable name proves imo that they DON'T trust their judgment and abilities, and even implies that they know that they incorrectly close innocent peoples accounts.

I would even go as far as to say that I suspect fraudulence from Google in this case, if they were honest why don't they offer proper support and help in cases like this? Imagine any other business doing this, a bank "We have closed your account and frozen all your money because our secret algorithm indicates that you have violated our agreement. We won't say what in our agreement you have violated, you have one appeal and after that the final decision is made" and the response to the appeal "We have read your appeal, but decided that our secret algorithm made the right call, and you have violated a part of our agreement, but we still won't say what part."

Why aren't Google called out more on things like this? Their business needs to be regulated just as much as any other businesses.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

#44

Post by codexon »

boofar wrote: post #39
codexon wrote: post #32

I had the same experience with Google Adsense. Once I started making money from it after 8 years of being under the $100 minimum payout, they disabled my account on the second payment. I received the same reply as the person in this story. If you are an entrepreneur, think about disrupting this field. The competition, Adbrite and Chitika are far behind in relevance and payment. Thankfully my site is now big enough to…

If you don't mind: which are those more exclusive advertising networks, and what are the hurdles you have to take to get in? What's an average ecpm there?

The exclusive networks you can find simply by googling.

They all require a large amount of unique visitors (1 million+ per month) and not controversial content like adult material or guns.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by GFischer »

narad wrote: post #41
NameNickHN wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what hope is there for people les famous?

It is too sad to notice that Google only serves famous people. All those people who raised their voice on blogs and HN are given priority. What about the people who post on the Google Adsense forums and GAN Forums? Nobody from Google even replies to those legitimate queries.

Even when they do, their answers are not informative.

I asked about whether one website offering a free AdSense coupon was sponsored by Google or not, and I received contradicting answers.

Edit: The website was www.googleadwordspromos.com/ and an example of conflicting answers is here: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/adwords/thread?tid=62a...

Re: Goodbye AdSense

#46

Post by tocomment »

One thing that has me perplexed about Adsense. I have a site that used to get around 400 unique visitors per day and I was making $100/month from adsense. I haven't touched the site in years, now it gets around 1000 visitors per day but I'm still making $100/month from adsense.

Is there some kind of cap built into Adsense, or is it just a coincidence that the amount stayed the same.

BTW with this traffic level, is there a better ad network I could use?

Re: Goodbye AdSense

#47

Post by rplnt »

johnx123-up wrote: post #19

Suing is the only option to get your money back...

I'm sure that reading the license agreement would tell you otherwise. I.e. there is no way they would make themselves liable somehow.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

#48

Post by white_devil »

gata wrote: post #20

I once used their very strict account disabling policy to get a competitor kicked from Google AdSense. It was not even that difficult. I just spent a couple of minutes every day visiting his website, clicking all the adsense links, closing all the openend tabs, reloading the page and so on. It took a few weeks, but then the ads just stopped showing up (despite the Javascript code still being loaded) and a few days la…

Interesting how you posted something that amounts to "I'm an asshole", just because it was relevant to the discussion.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

#49

Post by nidennet »

Shank wrote: post #34
Shank wrote: post #33

+Matt Cutts commented on this particular issue on Google+: https://plus.google.com/109412257237874861202/posts/RpNNBRr6... "I can't easily imagine Jef Poskanzer was click-spamming AdSense, while at the same time I trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. +Jef Poskanzer , I hope someone digs into the case to investigate deeply and reaches out if there's any more info we can share." I have to agree, though…

It looks as if Thomas Siegel was informed by this post. "Thanks for raising this Matt. I work with the Ad Traffic Quality Team and we'll look into this and investigate right away. I'll reach out to Jef to discuss in more detail."

The question is though, even if this was a mistake and Google admits it was their 'robot' or something like that, is the bridge totally burned by now.

Yes Jeff was making a fair amount of money and why not? For all the work he put in through the years, why not get a monetary compensation that will allow him to at least cover the hosting expenses. If Google turns back and says yes we made a mistake, we are reinstating your account, will Jeff go back to them or will he say eff this.

It is very difficult for someone to forget when they have been treated unfairly.

Again the above is all what-if scenarios but just saying...

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by AmazingMe »

yaix wrote: post #37

G has done this for the past 8 years, if you have AdSense, it is not a question if you get banned, but when you will get banned. What surprises me much more is that there is still no valid alternative. After 8 years! MS has tried to build something and failed. Y! of course failed. Then there's Entrieweb's SpeedyAds which are so bad I think they are not even working on them any more. Nobody seems to be able to build a…

Maybe Facebook should launch their ad-sense now.
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