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Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by camillomiller »

drited wrote: post #29
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #17

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

I had the opposite impression. I thought it helped to visualise the product, brings down the cost of the article and was clearly highlighted so it's not like they were trying to hide it. For a small article like this it would seem so wasteful to send a human out to do the job.

Pictures in journalism are information, just organized differently than text. If you use a random generated image that “mimics” that information you are effectively doing misinformation or even disinformation. No picture (or a generic picture of the monastery) would have been better in terms of information content. This publication decided to go for a subpar solution because it’s what? Cool to some?. Even worse: actual images were available.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by yorwba »

dukoid wrote: post #5
gecole wrote: post #3

Where can I get the powdered beer, I think it would be great for backpacking

I don't think it's available as a product yet. The original press release mentions some form of "market testing until mid-2023", but no details... https://www.klosterbrauerei.com/shop/Bierpulver/951/951

Way at the bottom they mention that members of the press are invited to come taste it, so you only need to make yourself some fake journalist credentials as a foreign correspondent of Random Backwater Tribune...

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by petesergeant »

kevinstubbs wrote: post #30
petesergeant wrote: post #21

> zero-alcohol beer There's not really any shortage of malted drinks you can get as a powder already. Could be interesting if you cut it with kitchen alcohol though, I guess.

They mention their next step is to produce an alcoholic variant.

Sure, but that's like saying "I've built a puppet, my next step will be to give it a soul". If they pull it off, it'll be a huge accomplishment and a breakthrough, where this stage isn't really doing anything that exciting.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by garbagewoman »

drited wrote: post #29
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #17

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

I had the opposite impression. I thought it helped to visualise the product, brings down the cost of the article and was clearly highlighted so it's not like they were trying to hide it. For a small article like this it would seem so wasteful to send a human out to do the job.

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Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by Karliss »

drited wrote: post #29
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #17

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

I had the opposite impression. I thought it helped to visualise the product, brings down the cost of the article and was clearly highlighted so it's not like they were trying to hide it. For a small article like this it would seem so wasteful to send a human out to do the job.

Having it written in smaller, harder to read font and positioning in the place that would typically contain photographers name which everyone usually ignores is opposite of highlighting.

If it was used to replace generic stock image with beer, I might be fine with it. As an illustration generic picture of beer cup without powder or branded packaging would have been sufficient. But being so specific it contains fake brand, powder makes it seem like it represents the actual product thus giving a misleading impression about the structure of powder and it's capabilities to produce foam.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by jaclaz »

mrpopo wrote: post #9

I don't understand how powdered beer can end up carbonated just by adding water, unless the carbon dioxide is locked in a chemical compound, but then this compound will remain in the drink, which is bound to have health issues.

Since the first years or 1900 and until the 1980's, before (carbonated) bottled mineral water became of more common use, carbonating powders for water were very common here in Italy, the most known was commercialized with the name of Idrolitina.

On Italian Wikipedia:

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idrolitina

Ingredients being sodium bicarbonate and two acids, malic and tartaric.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by dogma1138 »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #17

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

I have a feeling that the entire article is AI generated since it gets things wrong, there are no monks it’s just a regular brewery it’s called a Cloister Brewery because it’s located at the site of a 12th century Catholic cloister, Neuzelle is also nowhere near Munich.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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Post by BurningPenguin »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #17

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

They didn't even get the places right. Neuzelle isn't anywhere near Munich. It's not even in the same state. It is on the other side of the country, near Berlin.
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