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Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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I'm actually confused. I remember Kickstarter specifically saying that they didn't fund startups back when I applied to them.

Hi - I'm one of the hackers behind Ninja Blocks. We're not actually getting funding from Kickstarter - we're just pre-selling the product.

While I love what you guys are doing, it really troubles me to hear you say that so blatantly...

Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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Great, so now a cloud service will know when somebody is at my front door and all other sensors fire. Privacy where are you...

Privacy is a legitimate concern, but there are useful things you can do that you might feel comfortable sharing with our servers. Zero-information computing is really hard, and we didn't feel it was worth the time it'd take to give that kind of strong guarantee.

Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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Hi - I'm one of the hackers behind Ninja Blocks. We're not actually getting funding from Kickstarter - we're just pre-selling the product.

While I love what you guys are doing, it really troubles me to hear you say that so blatantly...

What @mwotton means to say is that we've made a lot of progress. We could probably eventually sell Ninja Blocks without Kickstarter, but certainly not to the quality we want.

Unlike software projects, hardware requires tooling, parts and materials. Kickstarter is allowing us to do this!

We're also open source hardware!

Cheers,

Marcus (I'm a developer on the Ninja Blocks project).

Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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This is a cool project, and I'm supporting it... ...however, sigh this is exactly what you should _not_ be using kickstarter for. Kickstarter is not a shop, and I hope that anyone who pledges towards them realizes that they are supporting the project _not buying something_, and those $$$ have absolutely 1) no guarantee on receiving any product or 2) no recourse if anything is defective / wrong / whatever on it. Kicks…

Hey Shadowmint,

I think you need to checkout http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backing%20a%20project

Cheers,

Marcus

Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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This is a cool project, and I'm supporting it... ...however, sigh this is exactly what you should _not_ be using kickstarter for. Kickstarter is not a shop, and I hope that anyone who pledges towards them realizes that they are supporting the project _not buying something_, and those $$$ have absolutely 1) no guarantee on receiving any product or 2) no recourse if anything is defective / wrong / whatever on it. Kicks…

Hey Shadowmint, I think you need to checkout http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backing%20a%20project Cheers, Marcus

Who is responsible for making sure project creators deliver what they promise?

Every creator is responsible for fulfilling the promises of their project. Because projects are usually funded by the friends, fans, and communities around its creator, there are powerful social forces that keep creators accountable. Creators are also encouraged to post regular updates about the progress of their project post-funding — communication goes a long way.

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Yes, I'm quite familiar with the Kickstarter FAQ and TOS.

As a project owner, you are not legally obliged to provide anything. It's entirely up to you.

You earn negative karma and never-allowed-on-kickstarter-again status if you mess it up, but that's about it.

Kickstarter is not an ecommerce site. If you're selling things, you should use a shop. Wordpress and paypal will get you off the ground in about 20 minutes.

If you're doing a startup that needs funding to get off the ground, awesome, use kickstarter...

...but not as a shop.

The only point I'm making is that it's deceptive practice to pretend that Kickstarter is a shop, when none of the normal legal provisions apply.

Of course, what you do it entirely up to you, but people should be aware.

Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Shadowmint, I think you need to checkout http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backing%20a%20project Cheers, Marcus

Who is responsible for making sure project creators deliver what they promise? Every creator is responsible for fulfilling the promises of their project. Because projects are usually funded by the friends, fans, and communities around its creator, there are powerful social forces that keep creators accountable. Creators are also encouraged to post regular updates about the progress of their project post-funding — com…

Hi Mate,

>> "If you're doing a startup that needs funding to get off the ground, awesome, use kickstarter"

That's exactly what we're doing! As previously mentioned, unlike software projects, hardware requires tooling, parts and materials.

Kickstarter helping us to pursue our vision!

We've run an e-commerce site in the past and we know how much people's expectations matter.

Cheers,

Marcus

Re: Ninja Blocks: Connect your world with the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Shadowmint, I think you need to checkout http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/backing%20a%20project Cheers, Marcus

Who is responsible for making sure project creators deliver what they promise? Every creator is responsible for fulfilling the promises of their project. Because projects are usually funded by the friends, fans, and communities around its creator, there are powerful social forces that keep creators accountable. Creators are also encouraged to post regular updates about the progress of their project post-funding — com…

They seem to be clear that they're using the cash for tooling and production.

> What's the money for?

> Backers of this project will be helping to create the first production run of Ninja Blocks. Your pledges will enable us to move forward and create more sensors, actuators and add support for more of your favourite web applications!

> Every $1 will help us make Ninja Blocks better!

> Where to next?

> This Kickstarter Project will allow us to put the final polish on our prototypes and be able to afford the tooling and parts needed for production. [...]

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