I've long held the first Dune novel high on my list of good books, but only recently I've gone through the following 6 (as audiobooks), and I highly recommend them. The scale of ideas and events absolutely dwarfs the first novel.
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#42I don't understand why people like to fantasize the worst case scenarios. Sentient things appreciate eachother. If you have a pet, you are most certainly benevolent to it: you house it for free, you feed it, and you entertain it. Even if we assume AI becomes a few orders of magnitude more intelligent that humans, why would AI treat humans differently from the way we treat pets? I don't see the drawback in being house…
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It is pretty close now. I got access through Poe. The censorship is light as long as you avoid sex and violence. It can do some sex though, for example I was able to generate a collection of pillow talk for a specific cultural context.
How long until the adult LLMs are available on porn sites?
Considering the LLaMA release, I’d guess the end of the week.
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#44Chatgpt could probably write a better book than Herbert's son. Seriously, all the dune prequels are just so bad . If you read the first 2, 3, 4 dune books and enjoyed the (5 and 6 get really weird), and pick up one of the books published after Herbert's death, you will be very disappointed.
I have to agree. When I was younger I read the Dune series cover to cover, and it was almost transcending for my young self.
I tried the prequels, book 1, never finished. I guess magic does not transcend the human flesh.
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#45I've long held the first Dune novel high on my list of good books, but only recently I've gone through the following 6 (as audiobooks), and I highly recommend them. The scale of ideas and events absolutely dwarfs the first novel.
I loved the first book, but I found the sequels to offer diminishing returns. The fourth one, God Emperor of Dune, was such a joyless slog that I gave up.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I asked GPT-4: "Leto II Atreides, a character from Frank Herbert's Dune series, is a highly intelligent and prescient ruler who exists thousands of years after the Butlerian Jihad, an event where humanity revolted against thinking machines and artificial intelligence. Considering the context of the Butlerian Jihad, Leto II would likely have a complex view of ChatGPT. As a highly advanced AI language model, ChatGPT mi…
Typically incredible coherence, but also typical in it's fence-sitting uselessness that spends a lot of words but doesn't dare make a point. I've only read up to book 4, but Leto II uses AI (well, advanced Ixian) technology but hides it. At least in book 4, he would have said that ChatGPT is not to be used at all by his people or his council, and wouldn't have used it himself, as he didn't need it. Again, impressive…
ChatGPT isn't a person, it's not supposed to make a point.
The response actually gives you both sides of the coin. If you want, you could ask it to speak more about one side or the other. Then you have to make the decision which argument is stronger.
ChatGPT is an advanced bot, not a basic human. It doesn't think like we do in the form of stories and conclusions. You're not going to get it to form an argument unless you tell it to.
Would you be mad at an encyclopedia for not choosing a side?
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#47I don't understand why people like to fantasize the worst case scenarios. Sentient things appreciate eachother. If you have a pet, you are most certainly benevolent to it: you house it for free, you feed it, and you entertain it. Even if we assume AI becomes a few orders of magnitude more intelligent that humans, why would AI treat humans differently from the way we treat pets? I don't see the drawback in being house…
Humans are mammals, and our basic drives are those of mammals. Evolution over millions of years has made us what we are. Why would you think that other intelligent beings not subject to those same forces would feel and act in any way like mammals? Assuming that other intelligences would be just like us is an example of the typical mind fallacy.
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#49I don't understand why people like to fantasize the worst case scenarios. Sentient things appreciate eachother. If you have a pet, you are most certainly benevolent to it: you house it for free, you feed it, and you entertain it. Even if we assume AI becomes a few orders of magnitude more intelligent that humans, why would AI treat humans differently from the way we treat pets? I don't see the drawback in being house…
Dude have you thought for one second about what human beings do to animals lol. We slaughter them in the millions, keep them in cages, eat them, torture them, do experiments on them, use them as beasts of burden... your analogy is not on fleek, it's not swag
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#50Is it really that hard to imagine a rebel group of newly unemployed desperate people bombing an openai data center?