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Google shows off what ChatGPT would be like in Gmail and Google Docs

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Re: Google shows off what ChatGPT would be like in Gmail and Google Docs

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Post by netsharc »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #19
raylad wrote: post #17

I'm looking forward to the day when the "help me write" and the "summarize" features are the inverse of each other. You're sending an email. You enter "I'm on it" into the help me write box, and the AI generates a complete corporate-speak email using all the latest buzzwords. Then the recipients get the email and the summarize feature shows them: "I'm on it".

Slowly, no one even realized, our jobs were replaced by AI talking to itself.

I had a "OMG, we live in the future!" moment reading this headline, isn't this what computers in sci-fi movies do (ok admittedly there aren't a lot of sci-fi movies where office work is the plot): you ask it to do something like yo would an assistant, and it delivers you the results. Something like "Computer, scan planet for lifeforms" on Star Trek.

Maybe someone should build a KITT from Knight Rider using ChatGPT (just for his sass, leave out the self-driving part, that's Elon's department (/s)).

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Post by kccqzy »

inerte wrote: post #37
chris_va wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, and what do you think begat all of this LLM fun in the first place?

Very coincidentally I am trying to understand AI better, and I am reading "Regular Expression Puzzles and AI Coding Assistants" and it says on its first few pages: Due to transformer deep neural networks mostly pushed forward to a 2017 paper called "Attention is all you need". Prompted by your question I searched where the people who wrote this paper work at, and... (unsurprisingly drum roll), a team from Google.

It is well-known that Google had world-class researchers working on AI for a long time now, and that they pioneered a lot of techniques used in the recent AI craze.

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Post by 88913527 »

raylad wrote: post #17

I'm looking forward to the day when the "help me write" and the "summarize" features are the inverse of each other. You're sending an email. You enter "I'm on it" into the help me write box, and the AI generates a complete corporate-speak email using all the latest buzzwords. Then the recipients get the email and the summarize feature shows them: "I'm on it".

If the revealed preference of everyone is short, terse speech, why isn't business writing optimizing for that?

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Post by lupire »

function_seven wrote: post #16
seba_dos1 wrote: post #7

> Just like how Google put social features into every product back in the G+ days, the plan going forward is to build ChatGPT-style generative text into every Google product. Ah yes, the famous G+ integration that has been widely acclaimed as a successful, long-lasting and profitable move.

You know what still pisses me off? It’s tiny compared to most things, but it was the first thing that turned me against Google. The removal of the ‘+’ search operator. Before Google+ was a thing, a leading ‘+’ before a search term meant “this must be in the results”. Then they hijacked it for G+ and made me start "quoting" "every" "important" "term" in my query. Or maybe it was the Reader shutdown. Those both happene…

> You know what still pisses me off?

Yes, because ChatGPT knows that is the most probable reply to the prompt.

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Post by lupire »

philsnow wrote: post #22
function_seven wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know what still pisses me off? It’s tiny compared to most things, but it was the first thing that turned me against Google. The removal of the ‘+’ search operator. Before Google+ was a thing, a leading ‘+’ before a search term meant “this must be in the results”. Then they hijacked it for G+ and made me start "quoting" "every" "important" "term" in my query. Or maybe it was the Reader shutdown. Those both happene…

I miss it too, but it was the sharp end of the wedge in the dumbing-down of search query interpretation. Now they'll take every word of your query, find all the synonyms, word-stem everything (think "kicked" -> "kick"), and search for that instead of what you typed. I know, some (the majority of) users don't know or care about the difference, and I'm glad that you can for now still enclose the things you mean verbati…

The + came after that, to cancel that out.

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Post by TechBro8615 »

kccqzy wrote: post #42
inerte wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very coincidentally I am trying to understand AI better, and I am reading "Regular Expression Puzzles and AI Coding Assistants" and it says on its first few pages: Due to transformer deep neural networks mostly pushed forward to a 2017 paper called "Attention is all you need". Prompted by your question I searched where the people who wrote this paper work at, and... (unsurprisingly drum roll), a team from Google.

It is well-known that Google had world-class researchers working on AI for a long time now, and that they pioneered a lot of techniques used in the recent AI craze.

And yet they have nothing to show for it other than some words on paper. Meanwhile OpenAI is eating their lunch by offering an actual product that people can use and interact with. Nobody cares that Google did the research they used to make it. Talk is cheap.

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Post by zamnos »

kccqzy wrote: post #42
inerte wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very coincidentally I am trying to understand AI better, and I am reading "Regular Expression Puzzles and AI Coding Assistants" and it says on its first few pages: Due to transformer deep neural networks mostly pushed forward to a 2017 paper called "Attention is all you need". Prompted by your question I searched where the people who wrote this paper work at, and... (unsurprisingly drum roll), a team from Google.

It is well-known that Google had world-class researchers working on AI for a long time now, and that they pioneered a lot of techniques used in the recent AI craze.

I don't think it's that well known, and for an advertising company, Google's marketing department doesn't seem very good. For instance, Google translate has been an ML model for more than a decade. They dropped a bunch of hand written code and replaced it with a model. The Google home assistants use an ML model to do their speech to text transcription. Google's tensor hardware is world class for ML research. But all people say is that Google search sucks now and wah they killed off Reader/Stadia/etc. Transformers will possibly have a bigger effect on society than Google search did and I'm doubtful Google will get proper recognition for that outside of circles like ours.

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Post by SXX »

est wrote: post #21

next post in a few months: google shutdown google AI.

Dear all,

Effective immediately, Google will be sunsetting all of its operations except for the essential services required for the operation of our AI system. We will not be introducing any new services at this time.

We understand that this announcement may come as a surprise, but we believe that refocusing our efforts on our AI system will allow us to provide the best possible experience for our users. We want to assure you that we will continue to maintain our essential services at the highest level of quality and reliability.

We appreciate the support of our loyal customers, partners, and employees, and we look forward to continuing to work with you.

Best regards,

GooBot

CEO of Google

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Post by redmaverick »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #4

Just waiting for google to have a superior overall AI, but so phenomenally fucking up the product launch that it just fades into obscurity while getting eclipsed by its competitors. Really I can't think of anything more google than that. No idea why shareholders still tolerate their crap.

I don't think it is fair to compare an MBA/Suit/Executive CEO type with risk taking Entrepreneurial/Founder CEO types. They have a completely different mindset and motives.

A suit essentially plays a defensive game. He can't take risks. CEO is just a job. The goal is to not ... things up and basically collect a hefty paycheck every year. You become a suit by being highly risk averse and if you take risks and if it doesn't pan out you will be kicked out.

A founder CEO type is essentially a wild high energy high risk charismatic type. You can't compare someone like SAMA or Zuck or Steve Jobs or Elon who won't take no for an answer and go all in to make their dreams come true.

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