I have used Cucumber in various projects, but haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing it all work out. - No one wanted to "collaborate", or check a "documentation" based on the Cucumber code . Yes, it's code, it lives in an IDE, in git, and non-technical folks just generally don't deal with that world. No one in my projects ever even brought such an idea up. Non-technical folks looked at our Cucumber code as in "what…
Cucumber maintainer has been laid off
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#42Given that Gherkin language is insultingly stilted and simplistic, when I see Cucumber, then I want to vomit.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is also paranoia. A lot of people believe that a laid off employee will immediately go against the company and do some kind of sabotage or leak secrets.
It's not exactly paranoia given there have been many examples of the fear becoming true.
Imagine being a Google cloud customer and hearing that they need to give employees no notice of a firing in order to protect your data. Like that implies employees have unrestricted access!
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
We tried it once and the semi-tech SMEs had no desire to write cucumber code so it ended up being the developers who hated writing in a second language. No real benefit.
The ideas behind BDD are sound, but I've never seen it work out in the real world. In reality we as programmers need to turn what the stakeholders want into code. They will talk in meetings: we better take notes. They will write things down [in English or whatever language they speak], but it won't be code. There will be conflicting requirements, and we as programmers need to understand the topic well enough to make…
This doesn't sound like a stupid test at all: it safeguards against a regression by preventing anyone from changing the vector code. In an ideal world every bug would be caught by a human once and only once, and thereafter be tested.
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#46I have used Cucumber in various projects, but haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing it all work out. - No one wanted to "collaborate", or check a "documentation" based on the Cucumber code . Yes, it's code, it lives in an IDE, in git, and non-technical folks just generally don't deal with that world. No one in my projects ever even brought such an idea up. Non-technical folks looked at our Cucumber code as in "what…
What BDD is good at, is defining project requirments, it is a thinking tool. Especially if used correctly, with examples and etc. It is a business not engineering tool.
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#49I have used Cucumber in various projects, but haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing it all work out. - No one wanted to "collaborate", or check a "documentation" based on the Cucumber code . Yes, it's code, it lives in an IDE, in git, and non-technical folks just generally don't deal with that world. No one in my projects ever even brought such an idea up. Non-technical folks looked at our Cucumber code as in "what…
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#50Don't take more than two weeks at a time vacation let alone loose access to your email if you value your job. Ever. While we get there all esoteric on taking time off to rewind because we have added so much value already and the world is beautiful a worth exploring, there are many people working non stop to take what you have... bummer