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Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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I have used Cucumber in various projects, but haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing it all work out. - No one wanted to "collaborate", or check a "documentation" based on the Cucumber code . Yes, it's code, it lives in an IDE, in git, and non-technical folks just generally don't deal with that world. No one in my projects ever even brought such an idea up. Non-technical folks looked at our Cucumber code as in "what…

Maybe a ChatGPT prompt could translate?

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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As a tester, I have felt from the first time I ever saw Cucumber that it is part of a conspiracy by coders to avoid productive testing by trying to transform testing into code— like that guy who wrote scripts to handle all communication with his girlfriend.

Given that Gherkin language is insultingly stilted and simplistic, when I see Cucumber, then I want to vomit.

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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There is also paranoia. A lot of people believe that a laid off employee will immediately go against the company and do some kind of sabotage or leak secrets.

It's not exactly paranoia given there have been many examples of the fear becoming true.

I mean employees also leak/sabotage stuff while they're employed perhaps you should have a better system where 1 "rogue" employee can't trash it.

Imagine being a Google cloud customer and hearing that they need to give employees no notice of a firing in order to protect your data. Like that implies employees have unrestricted access!

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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We tried it once and the semi-tech SMEs had no desire to write cucumber code so it ended up being the developers who hated writing in a second language. No real benefit.

The ideas behind BDD are sound, but I've never seen it work out in the real world. In reality we as programmers need to turn what the stakeholders want into code. They will talk in meetings: we better take notes. They will write things down [in English or whatever language they speak], but it won't be code. There will be conflicting requirements, and we as programmers need to understand the topic well enough to make…

> some of them are stupid

This doesn't sound like a stupid test at all: it safeguards against a regression by preventing anyone from changing the vector code. In an ideal world every bug would be caught by a human once and only once, and thereafter be tested.

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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Don't take more than two weeks at a time vacation let alone loose access to your email if you value your job. Ever. While we get there all esoteric on taking time off to rewind because we have added so much value already and the world is beautiful a worth exploring, there are many people working non stop to take what you have... bummer

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

#46

I have used Cucumber in various projects, but haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing it all work out. - No one wanted to "collaborate", or check a "documentation" based on the Cucumber code . Yes, it's code, it lives in an IDE, in git, and non-technical folks just generally don't deal with that world. No one in my projects ever even brought such an idea up. Non-technical folks looked at our Cucumber code as in "what…

I think BDD has very bad reputation because people associate it with test automation. And it is actually pretty terrible tool to teschnicall describe tests.

What BDD is good at, is defining project requirments, it is a thinking tool. Especially if used correctly, with examples and etc. It is a business not engineering tool.

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not exactly paranoia given there have been many examples of the fear becoming true.

Has it not happened in Europe for some reason?

People in Europe usually don’t have their healthcare and safety net tied to their work.

Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

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I have used Cucumber in various projects, but haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing it all work out. - No one wanted to "collaborate", or check a "documentation" based on the Cucumber code . Yes, it's code, it lives in an IDE, in git, and non-technical folks just generally don't deal with that world. No one in my projects ever even brought such an idea up. Non-technical folks looked at our Cucumber code as in "what…

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Re: Cucumber maintainer has been laid off

#50

Don't take more than two weeks at a time vacation let alone loose access to your email if you value your job. Ever. While we get there all esoteric on taking time off to rewind because we have added so much value already and the world is beautiful a worth exploring, there are many people working non stop to take what you have... bummer

This is terrible advice. One of the most important things in security (amongst other practices) is to ensure that people take regular longer breaks, because it's a great way of seeing where there are dodgy practices going on, and in particular people making themselves SPOFs. If you have inherent value, rather than just a castle defended by a moat of failing to cross-skill your colleagues, then you'll be safe taking longer holidays.
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