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Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by noncoml »

cushychicken wrote: post #38
andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

Raspberry Pi is a corporate endeavor as well. They also have employees, and a payroll to maintain. Seems a bit harsh to blame them for selling their products to the customers who are most able to pay for them, which enables them to stay in business. (Whatever quantity Vodafone is buying is DEFINITELY more than any hobbyist is able to pay.)

> Raspberry Pi is a corporate endeavor as well. They also have employees, and a payroll to maintain.

They would have sold out either way. What does payroll have to do with who they prioritize to sell to?

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by darthrupert »

andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

I think you are wildly overestimating the benefits of giving children raspberry pis.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by Nextgrid »

borland wrote: post #10

Isn't this just "Now you can pay to purchase and operate hardware to compensate for our crappy coverage, so we don't have to improve it ourselves?"

My question would be why you'd ever use this instead of Wi-Fi? The range of these wouldn't be much better than a proper Wi-Fi access point anyway.

Wi-Fi supports EAP-AKA which uses the SIM card and carrier's cooperation to seamlessly authenticate clients, so credential management is also solved.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by Dylan16807 »

moremetadata wrote: post #33
jbverschoor wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already sell 5g stations to use in your home when they don't have coverage.

I dont know if I want to be so close to a 5G transmitter after reading this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34778597/

Hahaha I googled the first author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96D-vi59Czs&t=190

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by Gigachad »

darthrupert wrote: post #42
andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

I think you are wildly overestimating the benefits of giving children raspberry pis.

There are so many other SBCs as well. Arguably the arduino products are more useful to kids anyway. Much easier to use, you just plug them in to the computer you are already familiar with and can start running code on them. No need to set up SSH or a second monitor/kb

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by andrewstuart »

darthrupert wrote: post #42
andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

I think you are wildly overestimating the benefits of giving children raspberry pis.

An uplifting quote from: https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/raspberrypi

"Raspberry Pi wasn't invented to boost shareholder value or turn its founders into billionaires: it was created as a charity to increase the number and calibre of students applying to study computer science at Cambridge, to give young people access to programmable hardware at a low price, and to equip a new generation"

Whereas Raspberry Pi today:

"We're selling to industrial buyers."

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by photochemsyn »

andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

This looks interesting as an alternative:

https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-pro-p550

> "This is a premium software development system ideal for developer desktop machines and rack-based build/test/deploy servers for RISC-V software development. RISC-V has no limits."

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by dymk »

noncoml wrote: post #41
cushychicken wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Raspberry Pi is a corporate endeavor as well. They also have employees, and a payroll to maintain. Seems a bit harsh to blame them for selling their products to the customers who are most able to pay for them, which enables them to stay in business. (Whatever quantity Vodafone is buying is DEFINITELY more than any hobbyist is able to pay.)

> Raspberry Pi is a corporate endeavor as well. They also have employees, and a payroll to maintain. They would have sold out either way. What does payroll have to do with who they prioritize to sell to?

It's easier and less risky to sell in-bulk to another business on a contract than it does to sell retail

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by petsfed »

darthrupert wrote: post #42
andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

I think you are wildly overestimating the benefits of giving children raspberry pis.

Perhaps, but the Raspberry Pi Foundation was founded on the premise of putting tiny computers in the hands of children and hobbyists. So whatever good may come of selling RPis to Vodafone, it is not the good that Raspberry Pi was founded to provide.

This is a GPUs-in-the-hands-of-miners-not-gamers situation, but I think starving the educational community is a bit more venal than starving the gaming community.

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