Tiktok should just be banned outright. I don't know why anyone would trust an algorithm controlled by the CCP, and I don't know why western governments tolerate it.
Canada bans TikTok on government devices over security risks
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#42Tiktok should just be banned outright. I don't know why anyone would trust an algorithm controlled by the CCP, and I don't know why western governments tolerate it.
Facebook, Instagram and Twitter as well. American three letter agencies have access to their data (revealed by Edward Snowden) and the US kills people based on this data[1].
[1] http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/05/ex-nsa-chief-w...
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’re on TikTok, you’re by default granting camera, microphone, and location permissions. If you’re addicted to TikTok you’re probably opening it up every time you have a few minutes to kill, including in government offices and etc.
No you're not, what? Is this some Android nonsense because I can just deny all of that on iOS. It doesn't even have the option of requesting location permission. If you want to make a Tiktok then yeah it's gonna need the camera and mic but outside of that it has never once triggered the mic or camera indicator while not taking a video.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not Android nonsense, it's just nonsense. If you don't post, TikTok requires zero permissions. Further, they only collect data related to how you use the app as per their privacy policy: https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/eea/privacy-policy/en .
> they only collect data related to how you use the app Did you read it? Because that is not what it says. That page also explains how they: * fingerprint your device, and your biometrics, and ID your device even when you don't log in * collect your location information even if you deny OS permissions * collect information about your viewing habits * collect and share information from data brokers * share information…
That's fairly normal data collection and nothing out of the ordinary at all.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they only collect data related to how you use the app Did you read it? Because that is not what it says. That page also explains how they: * fingerprint your device, and your biometrics, and ID your device even when you don't log in * collect your location information even if you deny OS permissions * collect information about your viewing habits * collect and share information from data brokers * share information…
That's fairly normal data collection and nothing out of the ordinary at all.
It is. The new part for most westerners is the political jurisdiction that those legal requests are beholden to.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
because china. There's no other reason besides this. American empire and its vassal states (like canada) are feeling threatened by the rise of the east.
Don’t understand this reasoning at all. China bans all Western social media tech in the widest way possible for more than a decade and the minute a Western govt enacts a ban on govt devices, folks say this is unfair.
Companies like Google and Facebook CHOOSE to not operate in China because they don't want to follow the the laws that Chinese companies are following. They're not banned, they're not allowed to operate unless they comply with local laws. Just like they wouldn't be allowed to operate in Europe if they didn't show a Cookie pop-up. It's not like they're not allowed to operate in China because they're American apps.
The US should make the data collection itself illegal for everyone and be done with it. They're currently walking this weird path where the exact same data collection is fine if it's Americans doing. It's not one set of rules for everyone.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's fairly normal data collection and nothing out of the ordinary at all.
It is. The new part for most westerners is the political jurisdiction that those legal requests are beholden to.
Which I guess is "welcome to how everyone not in the US thinks about the US." So 100% it's a change for us but the rest of the world seems to have acclimated to it fine-ish.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is. The new part for most westerners is the political jurisdiction that those legal requests are beholden to.
Which I guess is "welcome to how everyone not in the US thinks about the US." So 100% it's a change for us but the rest of the world seems to have acclimated to it fine-ish.
I don't disagree with that sentiment. Although it is more understandable that many outside of the US/CN/RU might use foreign social networks, because they don't have any major domestic alternatives... whereas the US has several direct competitors to TikTok.
Re: Canada bans TikTok on government devices over security risks
#49Tiktok should just be banned outright. I don't know why anyone would trust an algorithm controlled by the CCP, and I don't know why western governments tolerate it.
Facebook, Instagram and Twitter as well. American three letter agencies have access to their data (revealed by Edward Snowden) and the US kills people based on this data[1]. [1] http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/05/ex-nsa-chief-w...
No, that's a separate issue unrelated to this one.
If biden wants to show you pictures of seahorses on instagram, there really is no practical way to do it. If Xi wants to show you seahorses on tiktok, you'll be seeing them tomorrow.
Its a completely different situation, it bothers me that people try so hard to muddy the waters with whataboutism.
Re: Canada bans TikTok on government devices over security risks
#50My state did the same recently, my university blocks tiktok traffic on any divice connected to the school wifi now.
Kind of came out of nowhere for me, I heard about the security concerns but didnt think they were being taken that seriously.