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Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Only if you trust telegram (you shouldn't)

Without context this is just noise. Also when you say: don't trust Telegram, while not saying anything about WhatsApp, you are, on average, pushing people from a solution that isn't proven to be trustworthy to a solution that is proven to be untrustworthy . Because unless you simultaneously point out that WhatsApp is worse, that is where people will go if they listen to you and avoid Telegram.

I think in this context, WhatsApp is better than Telegram. In Telegram, you'd upload your files in a way that the server can see them. In WhatsApp, the server won't be able to see the contents.

(Even in general, I think that Telegram is no clear win over WhatsApp, and in fact I'd consider it worse in terms of chat message security.)

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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There’s also an iOS client, though it doesn’t have all features implemented due to limitations in Apple’s APIs. However it’s still the most convenient way to transfer files between an iPhone and a Windows or Linux computer.

Signal "note to self" is another way.

This ruins your images or videos via terrible recompression that you can't disable.

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Indeed, kudos to the devs for maintaining a Windows version too!

They should probably rename it.

I kinda like that the name draws attention to KDE. And it is still KDE software, whether you're using Plasma as your desktop environment or not.

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Only if you trust telegram (you shouldn't)

Without context this is just noise. Also when you say: don't trust Telegram, while not saying anything about WhatsApp, you are, on average, pushing people from a solution that isn't proven to be trustworthy to a solution that is proven to be untrustworthy . Because unless you simultaneously point out that WhatsApp is worse, that is where people will go if they listen to you and avoid Telegram.

Telegram is not e2ee.

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Gnome doesn't need any more KDE Connect clients. GSConnect is pretty much perfect and most importantly, is integrated into the Quick Settings. What I have always been puzzled by is the near absence of KDE Connect clients for tiling compositors. I would love to one day use KDE Connect in a way that feels native for something like Sway.

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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I used KDE Connect in the earlier years and am totally blanking out on what it is or does… I assume it forwards data from a KDE desktops widgets?

You know, reading the article would have answered your question, saving your time, my time from (voluntary) responding, and everyone else who reads this comment and subsequently also responds it. I don't mean to be harsh, but really? There is entire bullet point list on the page, and yes, I didn't include it in my response. Ironic.

I upvoted the thread so I can look at it when I have free time, figured I would ask since when I skimmed I didnt see it.

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Without context this is just noise. Also when you say: don't trust Telegram, while not saying anything about WhatsApp, you are, on average, pushing people from a solution that isn't proven to be trustworthy to a solution that is proven to be untrustworthy . Because unless you simultaneously point out that WhatsApp is worse, that is where people will go if they listen to you and avoid Telegram.

I think in this context, WhatsApp is better than Telegram. In Telegram, you'd upload your files in a way that the server can see them. In WhatsApp, the server won't be able to see the contents. (Even in general, I think that Telegram is no clear win over WhatsApp, and in fact I'd consider it worse in terms of chat message security.)

WhatsApp has a documented history of all kinds of shadyness from uploading unencrypted (yes, unencrypted) backups to Google under an agreement that let Google rummage through them(!) to their "send the data in a sidechannel directly to Facebook for analysis while also sending it end-to-end-encrypted to the recipient".

I really can't understand why you bright folks here on HN falls for WhatsApps marketing.

E2E means absolutely nothing as long as the messages are siphoned away in broad daylight.

That said: avoid Telegram all you want. But if you mean no one should ever touch it, I hope you are also against physical mail which is way less secure and also email which is way less secure than Telegram.

Re: Valent Is a KDE Connect Client for GTK-Based Desktops

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Without context this is just noise. Also when you say: don't trust Telegram, while not saying anything about WhatsApp, you are, on average, pushing people from a solution that isn't proven to be trustworthy to a solution that is proven to be untrustworthy . Because unless you simultaneously point out that WhatsApp is worse, that is where people will go if they listen to you and avoid Telegram.

Telegram is not e2ee.

And? WhatsApp is e2ee-but-sends-your-data-brazenly-to-google-and-facebook-by-sidechannels.

So far Telegram hasn't been caught once the last decade while WhatsApp has been caught at least twicem

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