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Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

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Good. Both Google and Amazon are barreling down the path of democratizing scale and infrastructure with their cloud offerings. It's never been easier to reach millions of users in a short amount of time with your product. These are the companies that will end up ultimately challenging them down the road for talent and potentially even hitting at their core business models of search and commerce (we've already seen hi…

cloud infrastructure was never the limiting factor.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#42

No shit Sherlock. If FAANG companies lay-off smart people expert at the latest technologies and give them a comfortable severance, some of them are bound to come up with smart startups. Some are going to hurt the incumbents eventually. The BigCos shot themself in foot by doing these mimetic mass firings.

Or maybe they just spawned a bunch of companies that they will eventually have the pick of to acquire when they decide they need to do "something" with their cash hoards and the founders are looking for a payout.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#44
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a ton of money parked into savings accounts due to the high interest rates and the fear of recession. As things improve all this money will look for employment.

As things improve big tech will start hiring again.

ehhhhhhhhh. Maybe.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#45
post #8

Good. Both Google and Amazon are barreling down the path of democratizing scale and infrastructure with their cloud offerings. It's never been easier to reach millions of users in a short amount of time with your product. These are the companies that will end up ultimately challenging them down the road for talent and potentially even hitting at their core business models of search and commerce (we've already seen hi…

Aren't startup made to be bought by the tech giants? Until there is a shift in their goals, I can't see thé gafam losing here.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#46

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> plus health insurance through Cobra. Nb. using COBRA is often pretty damn expensive, since you're paying the full cost of whatever plan the company uses. It can make sense for some people since it means your deductible and max-out-of-pocket don't reset like they would if you switched to a marketplace plan (and then reset again when you get a new job and another plan) but it's not quite as nice a thing to have as it…

The companies (at least Meta/Google) are paying the full cost of healthcare for 6 months, at zero cost to those laid off.

Oh shit, nice. That's not COBRA, but a benefit on top of it (to be clear, for anyone who may one day be able to use COBRA and might not realize the company doesn't usually pay for it) but is pretty great for those who were laid off, in this case.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#47
post #8

Good. Both Google and Amazon are barreling down the path of democratizing scale and infrastructure with their cloud offerings. It's never been easier to reach millions of users in a short amount of time with your product. These are the companies that will end up ultimately challenging them down the road for talent and potentially even hitting at their core business models of search and commerce (we've already seen hi…

> Both Google and Amazon are barreling down the path of democratizing scale and infrastructure with their cloud offerings. It's never been easier to reach millions of users in a short amount of time with your product.

The second statement does not follow from the first.

What is true (partly because of the first statement) is that building is now easier than ever. Precisely because of that, however, rising above all the noise and reaching millions of users is now arguably harder than it was previously.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#48
post #3

I imagine severance packages are a big factor here. People laid off by Google might have a full six months or more of severance pay, plus health insurance through Cobra. That's a pretty fantastic opportunity to spend six months on a startup in relative economic safety!

I'd imagine the way the stock market was prior to 2022 also plays a factor. I know plenty of senior+ level people in tech who made a killing off their RSU growth and could basically retire modestly in their 30s. There's lots of talented people with strong tech backgrounds and big safety nets right now.

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#49
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if it was "shot themselves in the foot" so much as "the unsustainable thing they were doing to prevent potential competition finally broke." FAANG's talent acquisition strategy has always been as much about preventing things from being built externally as it was building things internally. Problem is, there's only so long you can funnel all of your 500k/year engineers into revenue-negative wastes of time…

It'll be interesting to watch this play out. I know ByteDance has been slurping up some Meta talent, and you don't want someone you lay off to build the company that eventually kills you.

TikTok is also planning layoff in thousands

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34912150

Re: Tech layoffs are feeding a new startup surge

#50
post #8

Good. Both Google and Amazon are barreling down the path of democratizing scale and infrastructure with their cloud offerings. It's never been easier to reach millions of users in a short amount of time with your product. These are the companies that will end up ultimately challenging them down the road for talent and potentially even hitting at their core business models of search and commerce (we've already seen hi…

cloud infrastructure was never the limiting factor.

I think it was in a way.

Having an old school style IT structure was a pain. Maintaining your severs, networking gear if needed, OS updates ... on and on.

For very small teams (maybe not the well funded start ups) that could eat a lot of time and trouble.

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