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Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by IKLOL »

jrm4 wrote: post #12
wprl wrote: post #5

This is gross.

Serious question: Why?

Well for one thing it completely misrepresents Christianity. The Bible is clear that salvation is through believing in Jesus and resting in Him as your sole hope for eternal life. But when asked about salvation the bot responds:

"According to the Christian faith, salvation is both by faith and by works. Faith is necessary for salvation, as it is through faith that we accept God's grace and forgiveness. But works are also important, as our actions demonstrate our faith and commitment to following God's will."

Which is a damnable heresy that sends millions of people to hell.

Here's what the bible says:

"8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast."

It's pretty clear...

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by IKLOL »

jason-phillips wrote: post #40
IKLOL wrote: post #38

"According to the Christian faith, salvation is both by faith and by works. Faith is necessary for salvation, as it is through faith that we accept God's grace and forgiveness. But works are also important, as our actions demonstrate our faith and commitment to following God's will." Totally and completely wrong. Salvation is by faith alone through the grace of God alone and the Bible is completely clear about that t…

Your cousin, the king of France, says differently. Shall we have a war?

The Catholic church has perverted the gospel in many ways.

-Infant baptism, not found in the Bible

-Baptism by sprinkling, not found in the Bible

-Celibacy for church leaders, not found in the Bible

-Salvation by works, condemned in the Bible

-Mother Mary worship, condemned in the Bible

-Worship in front of statues, condemned in the Bible

-Opulence and extravagance in the church, condemned in the Bible

-Praying to anyone but God, not found in the Bible

I could go on...

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by shagie »

IKLOL wrote: post #38

"According to the Christian faith, salvation is both by faith and by works. Faith is necessary for salvation, as it is through faith that we accept God's grace and forgiveness. But works are also important, as our actions demonstrate our faith and commitment to following God's will." Totally and completely wrong. Salvation is by faith alone through the grace of God alone and the Bible is completely clear about that t…

http://www.coptic.net/lessons/FaithAndWorks.txt

> The absence of good works means that faith is dead and fruitless. Therefore, good works are the fruits of faith and the evidence of its presence, and with such, faith is perfected. Good works, however, are not from our volition only. We need the support of God's grace and the work of the Holy Spirit within us, for Jesus said "Without me ye can do nothing." (John 15:5)

From United Methodist Doctrine:

> Faith is necessary to salvation unconditionally. Good works are necessary only conditionally, that is if there is time and opportunity. The thief on the cross in Luke 23:39-43 is Wesley's example of this. ... However, for the vast majority of human beings good works are necessary for continuance in faith because those persons have both the time and opportunity for them.

> ...

> United Methodist doctrine thus understands true, saving faith to be the kind that, give time and opportunity, will result in good works. Any supposed faith that does not in fact lead to such behaviors is not genuine, saving faith.

Not all variations of Christianity are in agreement on faith and faith alone.

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

IKLOL wrote: post #38

"According to the Christian faith, salvation is both by faith and by works. Faith is necessary for salvation, as it is through faith that we accept God's grace and forgiveness. But works are also important, as our actions demonstrate our faith and commitment to following God's will." Totally and completely wrong. Salvation is by faith alone through the grace of God alone and the Bible is completely clear about that t…

Sola gracia and sola fide are both major points of contention of the Reformation so totally and completely wrong might be a bit strong here. Unless you are trying to settle once and for all the Protestant schism in one decisive HN comment in which case I admire your optimism.

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by mangamadaiyan »

bartislartfast wrote: post #20

Wait... Atheism? How does one answer spiritual questions from an Atheist perspective? Surely that's impossible since the ethics and morals of an Atheist can't be drawn from a single source.

One imbibes spirit and then answers them. In vino veritas, and all that.

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by IKLOL »

shagie wrote: post #43
IKLOL wrote: post #38

"According to the Christian faith, salvation is both by faith and by works. Faith is necessary for salvation, as it is through faith that we accept God's grace and forgiveness. But works are also important, as our actions demonstrate our faith and commitment to following God's will." Totally and completely wrong. Salvation is by faith alone through the grace of God alone and the Bible is completely clear about that t…

http://www.coptic.net/lessons/FaithAndWorks.txt > The absence of good works means that faith is dead and fruitless. Therefore, good works are the fruits of faith and the evidence of its presence, and with such, faith is perfected. Good works, however, are not from our volition only. We need the support of God's grace and the work of the Holy Spirit within us, for Jesus said "Without me ye can do nothing." (John 15:5)…

Obviously I agree that good works are something that Christians should strive to have. But works are not saving, and anyone looking to their works to save them will perish, as Jesus clearly states in the Bible:

"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many *wonderful works*?"

"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Jesus is talking here about people that look to their good deeds as evidence of their salvation. When they meet Jesus they tell him all the great things they have done, but completely forget about the key to salvation which is faith alone.

Christian sects are not in agreement of this because some Christian sects do not offer a saving gospel. Catholicism does not offer a saving gospel, for example.

We'd all do good to focus on the Bible as the final authority, and not the teaching and writing of men.

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by shagie »

elicash wrote: post #32

"According to Jewish dietary laws, a hot dog is not considered a sandwich because it does not include two slices of bread."

This is indeed a mater of great religious wars. https://cuberule.com ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30793622 ) is one such attempt to bring reason to it... though... reason might be too strong a word.

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by shagie »

IKLOL wrote: post #46
shagie wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.coptic.net/lessons/FaithAndWorks.txt > The absence of good works means that faith is dead and fruitless. Therefore, good works are the fruits of faith and the evidence of its presence, and with such, faith is perfected. Good works, however, are not from our volition only. We need the support of God's grace and the work of the Holy Spirit within us, for Jesus said "Without me ye can do nothing." (John 15:5)…

Obviously I agree that good works are something that Christians should strive to have. But works are not saving, and anyone looking to their works to save them will perish, as Jesus clearly states in the Bible: "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many * wonderful works* ?" "And then will I profess unto them, I nev…

> We'd all do good to focus on the Bible as the final authority

Which edition?

Re: GPT Spiritual Avisor

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Post by IKLOL »

shagie wrote: post #49
IKLOL wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously I agree that good works are something that Christians should strive to have. But works are not saving, and anyone looking to their works to save them will perish, as Jesus clearly states in the Bible: "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many * wonderful works* ?" "And then will I profess unto them, I nev…

> We'd all do good to focus on the Bible as the final authority Which edition?

The quote I quoted above from Jesus Christ himself is basically the same between versions. I'm not falling into a debate about Bible versions when Jesus is very clear about the main issue I'm talking about.
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