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Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

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Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

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The floodgates are now open for all the people who believe they have it in them to be great writers, if only it weren't for all of that tedious writing. As if the value in writing consists mainly in having an idea. This is much like people who believe that their great business idea is (by itself) worth millions.

What a glorious era, where all humans can now be made more equal. Even the weakest minds can create artwork and stories that rival the most talented individuals.

Why hasn’t AI come to the field of mathematics yet??

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#44
post #35

I posted an article by the editor 5 days ago on this issue https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34817148 but didn't get any notice.

The one posted a few hours ahead of you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34810758 got some discussion (52pts, 30 comments)

huh, I guess HN didn't flag it as a dupe because mine ended with /.

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#45

This story is an opportunity to ask a question I've been wondering about: Is it possible for the same generation of a LLM to produce stories that are significantly better than each other, given the same prompt multiple times? I know you can improve a response by tweaking the prompt. I know that randomness plays a part in the generation process. But, if (let's say) ChatGPT version x.xxx produces a C+ short story the f…

Statistically, yes. Infinite monkeys being as productive as they are, you'd eventually get Shakespeare out by accident.

Are the number of responses by ChatGPT to a given prompt infinite? I suppose that even monkeys at a typewriter can't produce an infinite number of different books, even if that number is really, really large (hello, Mr. Borges). But, I assumed (without a lot of subject matter knowledge) that the number of possible responses was actually much less than just randomly typing keys, because it's picking words from a frequency table. Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#46

This story is an opportunity to ask a question I've been wondering about: Is it possible for the same generation of a LLM to produce stories that are significantly better than each other, given the same prompt multiple times? I know you can improve a response by tweaking the prompt. I know that randomness plays a part in the generation process. But, if (let's say) ChatGPT version x.xxx produces a C+ short story the f…

To some degree, yes. You can ask it to do some introspection on a previous answer. It's basically an advanced form of prompt tuning, using the frozen model to fix its own outputs.

Have it write a short story, then ask it to identify grammatical problems in the short story, then to find run-on sentences, etc. It sometimes feels like "Check for errors" ought to be a follow up to every prompt...

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#47

The floodgates are now open for all the people who believe they have it in them to be great writers, if only it weren't for all of that tedious writing. As if the value in writing consists mainly in having an idea. This is much like people who believe that their great business idea is (by itself) worth millions.

What does the value in writing mainly consist of? Edit: currently this question is at -3, as though it’s obvious to everyone the difference between valuable writing and not valuable writing. To me it’s a worthwhile question, particularly because the more precisely we answer it the more precisely ChatGPT will become able to produce valuable writing a couple releases from now.

It really depends on the type of writing. Romance vs Non-fiction vs Academic all have different values.

In my opinion, the breakdown is somewhat like:

Romance is presumably (Story x Style)

Non-fiction is (Story x Accuracy x Clarity)

Academic is probably (Novelty x Clarity x Impact)

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#48
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reminds me of PG > The fact that there's no market for startup ideas suggests there's no demand. Which means, in the narrow sense of the word, that startup ideas are worthless. http://www.paulgraham.com/ideas.html#:~:text=The%20fact%20th... .

This is one of his essays I vehemently disagree with, and think has hurt Silicon Valley. The idea that ideas and idea people are worthless has had a cascading effect of putting non idea people in idea people seats, or locking out a class of people from participating unless they have some other engineering or marketing or leadership skill. Apple would never have become without Steve Jobs being able to see what was and…

It's rather that developers don't want to work for idea people because they usually are not Steve Jobs, who is the exception to the rule.

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#50

Yet another reason why AI is harmful. This is a real-world example of how AI, with its ability to trivially generate huge, low-quality volume, has shut down something people derive a benefit from. People like to write and read stories, and now they can do neither. Thanks to those who programmed ChatGPT /s

Don't worry. These publications will be replaced by completely AI-driven ones soon enough. Once everything is shit, people will have no choice but to learn to like the taste.
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