Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

mastodon.social

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 51 posts

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#41

Post by taspeotis »

akmarinov wrote: post #39
rezonant wrote: post #23

The title is sensationalized, dang can we get an edit? Fastlane absolutely has maintainers and is not abandoned. It's just that Google isn't paying for maintenance now. EDIT: I'm aware the original twoot says this verbatim, it's just not correct

5 months of no releases for this kind of project seems pretty abandoned

When did you check last? This release is from before the HN story was submitted:

    Google abandoned Fastlane, it has no maintainers currently (mastodon.social)
    93 points by prof18 4 hours ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 36 comments
https://github.com/fastlane/fastlane/releases/tag/2.212.0

    joshdholtz released this 9 hours ago
Does software need to be released every week? Would calc.exe on Windows be better for 52 releases a year vs. making it add two numbers together and then stopping?

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#42

Post by rezonant »

akmarinov wrote: post #39
rezonant wrote: post #23

The title is sensationalized, dang can we get an edit? Fastlane absolutely has maintainers and is not abandoned. It's just that Google isn't paying for maintenance now. EDIT: I'm aware the original twoot says this verbatim, it's just not correct

5 months of no releases for this kind of project seems pretty abandoned

2.211.0 came out November 12, which is about 3 months ago, and 2.212.0 came out 9 hours ago. In the linked Mastodon thread, Josh mentions that he's had a new addition to his family, making things a bit slower, and it's already pretty common for releases to slow down during the holiday months (for instance VS Code doesn't have a December release by policy).

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#44

Post by ericlewis »

todd3834 wrote: post #33
bushbaba wrote: post #31

[flagged]

I don’t think this was originally an open source project. If I remember people were pretty excited when Google hired the author of fastlane because it meant there would be more resources to support Android too. I want to say it started as an iOS project. Maybe it’s had enough of a push they don’t need a fully funded team at this point. It was already great before Google had any ownership.

Has always been open source. It started in open source. Had the pleasure of the creator, Felix, giving talks about it and getting to see them. He was sort of like, hired / bought by twitter / crashlytics and then sold to google at some point. Ancient history heh.

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#45

Post by testTED »

rezonant wrote: post #26
mrbombastic wrote: post #24

Oof I didn’t even know Google acquired fastlane, this is THE standard toolset for automating shipping iOS and Android apps, I’ve used it in every job I’ve had. I am sure Google is using it extensively internally as well. I am really hoping the maintainers can get some money for the value they provide. I would also hope Apple could provide some bucks towards this tool it is really necessary for making iOS delivery not…

I've just started using it in my shop, and the tool is quite magical. A lot of work has gone into it, to the level where it will automatically search its own GitHub issues when crashes occur and provide relevant stackoverflows in a lot of cases. iOS provisioning specifically is horribly complicated, and the ad-hoc (pun intended) way my org was doing code signing before is archaic in comparison. Thanks Josh and the ot…

Is anyone doing something like this for webapps?

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#46

Post by akmarinov »

taspeotis wrote: post #41
akmarinov wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5 months of no releases for this kind of project seems pretty abandoned

When did you check last? This release is from before the HN story was submitted: Google abandoned Fastlane, it has no maintainers currently (mastodon.social) 93 points by prof18 4 hours ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 36 comments https://github.com/fastlane/fastlane/releases/tag/2.212.0 joshdholtz released this 9 hours ago Does software need to be released every week? Would calc.exe on Windows be better for 52…

It would when you manage an IDE that’s updated at least quarterly with it

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#47

Post by mst »

j1elo wrote: post #25
mst wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't a "let's send all the random domains we have lying around to the main site" bulk change and whoever did it didn't realise and if anybody's reading the emails they have no idea where to start finding out who that was. I mean, that's not exactly great either if true, but I think it's just as much a possibility as this being intentional.

I would have hoped that in such a case, talking it over email and/or phone if needed would be a way to restore the domains that were actually in use. But apparently, emails were sent and never responded. In any case we took the chance to move it all so now it's a solved problem. The manners weren't great, tho.

Right, the only thing I'm arguing here is that it's plausible that every step, including the lack of a reply to the emails, could easily have been down to "the organisation was insufficiently organised."

Note that I've had to run around helping projects deal with both that sort of situation and the sort where the company was deliberately screwing over the project out of active malice (take a bow, Nagios Enterprises) and this definitely smells like the former based on what little information I have.

But being on the receiving end of such an event tends to suck baseballs through a carbon nanotube straw either way, and believe me that you have all of my sympathy and my nerding out trying to analyse how said event came to pass was, just, well, just as much a result of having waded through similar swamps previously myself as the sympathy :)

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#48

Post by _fat_santa »

mrbombastic wrote: post #24

Oof I didn’t even know Google acquired fastlane, this is THE standard toolset for automating shipping iOS and Android apps, I’ve used it in every job I’ve had. I am sure Google is using it extensively internally as well. I am really hoping the maintainers can get some money for the value they provide. I would also hope Apple could provide some bucks towards this tool it is really necessary for making iOS delivery not…

I don't think fastlane will have trouble finding backers and sponsors, because like you said many huge companies rely on it for deploy their iOS and Android apps, even when I was deploying a side project I used them. It's a crucial tool mobile devops and there is really no equivalent.

Re: Google is no longer sponsoring Fastlane

#49

Post by _fat_santa »

testTED wrote: post #45
rezonant wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just started using it in my shop, and the tool is quite magical. A lot of work has gone into it, to the level where it will automatically search its own GitHub issues when crashes occur and provide relevant stackoverflows in a lot of cases. iOS provisioning specifically is horribly complicated, and the ad-hoc (pun intended) way my org was doing code signing before is archaic in comparison. Thanks Josh and the ot…

Is anyone doing something like this for webapps?

Not required. With mobile app development one of the biggest pain points is deployments to the app stores, it's a little easier with Android but on iOS it's an absolute pain in the ass and fastlane makes it a much more tolerable experience.

When it comes to webapps it's a much more straightforward process. A simple github action that deploys your site to S3 would suffice. On mobile you have a billion certs, profile, and other crap to deal with and fastlane handles all of that.

Post reply on HN