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Noone is waking you for your stop lol.

This seems like a cool app. A bus route aware, "wake me 3 minutes before my stop" vibrate app.

CityMapper notifies you a stop or 2 before yours.

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It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.

FSD is terrible. I have it, it's dangerous. If I had to go 5 miles through city streets I'd sooner trust a human after 3 shots of tequila before I'd trust FSD every time.

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But you can fall asleep and wake up at work with public transportation.

Noone is waking you for your stop lol.

Your phone can.

Beyond that, you may be surprised how many people would wake you up for your stop. Especially in US Commuter Rail systems people tend to follow similar habits and get to know each other over the years. Even on a normal city bus I quickly (months) got used to the pattern of the same people getting on and off at their various stops. If you’re asleep at your stop someone can usually nudge you

Re: Tesla recalls 360k vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes

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It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.

I have the same experience. I think if there was more transparency in the data around FSD related accidents the conversation would be different. The last evidence we have is Tesla stating that there have been no fatalities in 60 million miles of driving under FSD. Pretty good so far.

Yes if we forget that the FSD may conveniently disconnect right before an accident

Re: Tesla recalls 360k vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes

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Noone is waking you for your stop lol.

This seems like a cool app. A bus route aware, "wake me 3 minutes before my stop" vibrate app.

There’s a few. I use one called Transit

Re: Tesla recalls 360k vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes

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It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.

As advanced cruise control? It's great. As what it's marketed as? It's fraud.

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post #33

It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.

Until your car decides to randomly slam on its brakes and cause a pile up.

Because only a FSD car causes piles up... your right, I NEVER saw 90 car pileups on the news before FSD. /s

I'm pointing this out because he said (in italics) "substantially".

Re: Tesla recalls 360k vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes

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It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.

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Re: Tesla recalls 360k vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes

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Meanwhile, the only actual L3 capable car is a Mercedes. Plenty of people will argue that AP is actually superior, but I don't think there's any way to say that for sure, given the tight constraints Mercedes has put on their driver assistance in order to lower the liability enough to make L3 not a bankruptcy event. For certain, however, they are more confident in their technology than Tesla is, otherwise Tesla would release an L3 capable car too.

To be fair, though, Tesla has no sensors other than cameras, and I believe the Mercedes has a half dozen or so, several radars and even a lidar.

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