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Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

Nothing weird about it. It's called first mover's advantage. Wanna make electric cars, you have to beat Tesla. No matter how nice your car is. If your range is worse. Booo. If your self driving is equivalent or worse, Boo. Whatever Tesla has done, you must be better at. You need better design, cheaper price, better range, better reliability else no one would notice you.

The problem with this analysis is that first movers usually don't win.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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post #9

Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

Nothing weird about it. It's called first mover's advantage. Wanna make electric cars, you have to beat Tesla. No matter how nice your car is. If your range is worse. Booo. If your self driving is equivalent or worse, Boo. Whatever Tesla has done, you must be better at. You need better design, cheaper price, better range, better reliability else no one would notice you.

Or you need a big differentiator which makes you the new first mover.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#44
post #14

Whats with everything being a dumpster fire nowadays? how about a simple hot mess? or what happened to a good ol hell in a hand-basket? or Ninth Circle Of Hell? I'm sure there are better euphemisms than the dumpster being on fhir as that indicates someone stoking it whereas the reality is more indecision and inaction causing confusion and demoralizing the teams.

If I had a nickel for every time I've heard Google has lost its mojo.

Same thing with Wave, Google Plus, Allo, Reader, countless examples.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#45
> Google employees

> Interactive chart of Alphabet (GOOG) annual worldwide employee count from 2010 to 2022. Alphabet total number of employees in 2022 was 190,234

There should be a rule where you can't over-represent a group of people in media headlines.

What percentage of 190,000 people called the CEOs response a dumpster fire?

What percentage of 190,000 are even aware of ChatGPT or Google's response to it?

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#46

It's gonna be Chatbots / NFTs all over again.

just wait until the various ChatGPTs are training each other using the well "researched content" they spamming the internet with... That alone will kill search more thoroughly then ChatGPT ever could by facilitating search at Bing.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#47
(Disclaimer: Google employee, I don’t work on Bard, views my own, etc.)

I don’t think either Bing Chat or Bard is ready to be released widely. You need a certain mindset to be able to wring value out of them, and most normal users will not think this way.

That being said, it’s probably fine to release these tools to enthusiastic early adopters who understand how to use them.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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post #2

Has sundar been a good CEO otherwise?

Sundar is good at keeping things running as-is. He was elevated to CEO of Google to keep things running as-is while the founders moved their exciting ventures up to Alphabet. When those other bets were abandoned, Sundar was left as the top engaged executive, but he's still only a caretaker when the company needs an actual leader with vision to navigate their competition. So, no. He has not been a good CEO. He was a g…

It's true. Even Ballmer had a vision.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#49
post #41

Remember when winner of the voice interface war was going to win the future of computing? Apple has a "dumpster fire" of a voice assistant and they're still around.

Every new thing gets hyped up as the "killer" of existing businesses.

Siri, Alexa, etc. were all supposed to be existential threats to Google's search, and then they weren't

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing weird about it. It's called first mover's advantage. Wanna make electric cars, you have to beat Tesla. No matter how nice your car is. If your range is worse. Booo. If your self driving is equivalent or worse, Boo. Whatever Tesla has done, you must be better at. You need better design, cheaper price, better range, better reliability else no one would notice you.

The problem with this analysis is that first movers usually don't win.

In the long run, sure. In the short to medium term, though, they solidly dominate the field.

We're still in that phase phase of both Tesla and Bing AI.

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