It's definitely time for him to let this project go, working on it is a literally thankless task and the level of entitlement shown towards his work has been infuriating to watch. The outrage towards him daring to ask the community for help , something done in an act of desperation, is a real wake up call for open source maintainers - the community doesn't give a fuck about you, they want your code and they want it f…
The guy literally went to prison when he didn't have to. Holy shit.
So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)
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#42Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)
#43In my unasked-for opinion, he should absolutely give up on this project, and take a salaried job that'll let him support his family and not have to deal with the entitlement issues and lack of perspective the community evidently has. If half of what's in this post is true, he's shown admirable restraint: I'd have burned it all down the first time someone got pissy about a free thing I gave them.
Thankfully 95% of the people I interacted with in the community were great and were great, but that other 5% was rough.
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#44I see a lot comments here suggesting the he should just pack his bags and get a corporate gig. How many other great open source projects will we miss out on because developers see this advice and not even bother in the first place.
I do it because it's a job, and I need money. I program to _solve problems_, not because I love programming.
Some people just really love programming.
I hope they get what they are worth though.
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#45EDIT: let me elaborate.
Writing open source is not a business strategy. At best, it's a gimmick, or outsourcing infrastructure maintenance to the public.
What you should do is the following:
1) Project authority.
This is easy. You are the creator and maintainer of a critical piece of infrastructure. You are THE EXPERT!
2) Project non-neediness
None of this "guys I'm struggling here". People should come to you because you have value to provide, not because they pity you.
3) Value proposition
Create a compelling value proposition where you get money in exchange for something.
That something could be a product, a subscription, a consultation service, or something else. The possibilities are endless.
You are a smart person. If you dedicate a week or two you can figure this out.
I don't know many people who are successfully making money from open source. I only know of Zig. Here's what Andrew Kelly did:
- He projects authority. You can watch him programming live. He has many live streams and talks.
- He does not project neediness. He talks frankly about his finances but none of this "omg you guys are so thankless for all my work". It's more like: hey guys, I'm working on this, if you are interested in this and would like it to continue, consider donating.
- He did the drudge work of setting up a non-profit foundation to receive the donations
- He got help from people: he doesn't run everything, he doesn't code everything. There are several people working in the Zig Foundation.
Now, I don't think you can do this with core-js. It's already pretty mature and any donation you get is basically going to come out of pity. You don't want to be in this situation.
That's why I think it's better for you to create a consultancy and provide some kind of service where people are compelled to pay you money because you are just so valuable.
My man, there are people out there making over $10k/mo from things like "copywriting" a few emails a month for a few high class clients.
You can do better.
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#46BTW: Zloirock is a transliteration, translates as bad karma, evil fate, bad luck etc.
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#47It's definitely time for him to let this project go, working on it is a literally thankless task and the level of entitlement shown towards his work has been infuriating to watch. The outrage towards him daring to ask the community for help , something done in an act of desperation, is a real wake up call for open source maintainers - the community doesn't give a fuck about you, they want your code and they want it f…
That's a pretty polarizing mindset. The community wants to be a community - you take, and give as you can. Nobody owes anyone else anything.
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#48Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)
#49In one of my previous jobs, my CTO asked me who I thought was the most important person in the company was. I wasn’t sure. He pointed to the lady who was responsible for entering and maintaining data, on which the entire business was built upon. She was a quiet person, who did her job exceptionally well. Yet, most people didn’t know her or didn’t realize her importance. I am certain she wasn’t paid that well either.…
I really don't understand people.
Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)
#50I see a lot comments here suggesting the he should just pack his bags and get a corporate gig. How many other great open source projects will we miss out on because developers see this advice and not even bother in the first place.
I always see stuff like this, especially on HN, and get impostor syndrome from it. I do it because it's a job, and I need money. I program to _solve problems_, not because I love programming. Some people just really love programming. I hope they get what they are worth though.