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Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily; the reports really could be unrelated to the train accident, or the EPA was simply unable to detect the cause.

Or 4 years of hollowing out regulatory agencies is having a lingering effect

Regulations seem more or less the same today as they did a decade ago. What exactly are you referring to?

Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily; the reports really could be unrelated to the train accident, or the EPA was simply unable to detect the cause.

Given that you can go on YouTube and see videos of the head of the EPA telling the 9/11 first responders that the air was perfectly safe to breathe, I’m probably going to go with the cat owners on this one.

Had to look it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijtLUisQKpA

She used every excuse she had: "We weren't going to let the terrorists win" "My son was in building 7 and almost died" "We needed to get the city back on its feet"

Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

#44
post #16

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For reporting on the derailing?!

Yes

A single journalist, among many attendees, being arrested for allegedly being loud in a gymnasium during a news conference is a bit of a stretch to state as evidence that authorities are generally arresting journalists reporting on the derailing.

Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

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>“Smoke and chemicals from the train, that’s the only thing that can cause it, because it doesn’t just happen out of nowhere,” Holzer says. “The chemicals that we’re being told are safe in the air, that’s definitely not safe for the animals … or people.” >“All the readings we’ve been recording in the community have been at normal concentrations, normal background, what you would find in almost any community operating…

Context from another article:

> Cars involved in the derailment contained vinyl chloride, combustible liquids, butyl acrylate, benzene residue cars (railroad cars that previously contained benzene,” the release stated, “and nonhazardous materials such as wheat, plastic pellets, malt liquors and lube oil.”

Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

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Grew up 30 miles west of East Palestine. My family is still there. So sad to see another struggling Midwest town dealt a death blow. It’s beautiful country even though it’s considered fly over and “blue collar” which is politically correct terminology for post-industrial poor. The EPA has roots from the Cuyahoga River fires. There was great progress made cleaning up the river and even turning portions of Northeast Oh…

how the hell is Ohio midwest?

Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

#49

So this is Palestine, in America ?

It's pretty common throughout the US, but there's a section of Ohio that I recall driving through which has several cities named for European and Asian countries.

I had a girlfriend early in college who's grandmother lived deep in rural Ohio; we visited the area frequently and it involved driving past several.

A bit of obscure trivia I learned while down there, "Russia, Ohio" is pronounced like "Roo-She". I was told this was because of the Cold War but even in my late teens "I wasn't so sure". The dialect of Southern English spoken by Grandma and the local population was a cross between deep Appalachia, slowly spoken and ... I don't know ... English-like words[1].

[0] Nice to see Wikipedia had the goofy pronounciation. It did not explain "why", unfortunately.

[1] She had an English (only) speaking neighbor who had the most "articulated"/"exaggerated" variant -- I remember having "Tonne Cohwa" or "Tonne Cohs" (plural) translated for me after several attempts to figure out WTF that referred to... Yeah. It was the word Taco. We were talking about the cold weather, I thought.

Re: Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment

#50
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily; the reports really could be unrelated to the train accident, or the EPA was simply unable to detect the cause.

Given that you can go on YouTube and see videos of the head of the EPA telling the 9/11 first responders that the air was perfectly safe to breathe, I’m probably going to go with the cat owners on this one.

I worked a block away and we were back in very quickly. Then the HEPA filters came, then there was a lot of chaos. I learned a lot of how government can go wrong those few months.
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