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WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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> valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol

Could by the same logic be argued that no kilometer traveled by car/bus/plane is safe for your health?

In other words, isn't this totally useless?

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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I mean this comes not as surprise to anyone who’s had a drink or a few. I enjoy a drink on occasion but the after effects are noticeable. I mean your body tells you the next day.

Though an occasional drink reduces stress, which is a positive effect, though it’s not advised to use as medicine.

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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I understand that the statement "only no alcohol is really safe" is correct. But it is not helpful in my everyday life. Exactly the same problem exists with gasoline. It is simply not possible (or extremely costly) to completely avoid the substance or their effects. To refuse a beer in Germany is an affront that I would like to weigh against the risk of cancer. In fact, I have found information on the question: The d…

> refuse a beer in Germany is an affront that I would like to weigh against the risk of cancer

Refusing a cigarette used to have a similar insult; and also you weren’t cool if you refused

That’s changed after decades of press and cancer warning labels on tobacco.

Let’s hope the same happens with alcohol.

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Is there a shortage of alcohol?

Ethanol is one of the easiest things to synthesize, also found in outer space. So, no.

How much does a bottle of space everclear cost?

Edit: 6500 light years away, so quite expensive. Also, it's mostly methyl so it would still need distillation.

https://phys.org/news/2014-09-alcohol-clouds-space.html

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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No fruit juice then.

You mean fruit-flavoured sugary water? Better eat an actual fruit.

There is such a thing as directly pressed apple (or $FRUIT) juice, which usually contains at least a small amount of alcohol

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

#46
I’ve not had drink in 15 years and I’m 35. I stopped for a number of reasons but the main one was that when I had a drink I became a fairly unpleasant person. Seeing friends around me evolve their relationship with alcohol has been interesting. Many have reduced their intake over years, some have drifted it up and without a doubt those who drink less are healthier and happier.

None have been able to go tea total for more than a few months but are happy I am as always being sober comes in handy sometimes (dealing with emergencies primarily when out/away from home)

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.

There's a video of a journalist asking a Russian official "Why do cigarettes say 'Smoking kills' on the pack, but vodka has no such label on the bottle?" to which the official replies "Why would vodka say 'Smoking kills' on the bottle?!?".

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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post #25

Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.

in the same group you'll find solar radiation (yes, literally the Sun light), UVs (A,B and C), X-ray and many other substances and/or radiations we are exposed to on a daily basis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IARC_group_1_Carcinogens

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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> To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption that's such a broken premise that everything that comes after that must be broken as well. We could prove, using the same logic, that "no level of life consumption is safe for our health" It is impossible t…

How many of those car accidents are related to alcohol consumption?

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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post #25

Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.

I guess it's cultural. Human consumption of alcoholic beverages goes back to thousands of years while tobacco has been used in Europe since the 15th century when it was brought back from America.

Wine is present in the Bible and used in Christian churches during mass. It is also used in Jewish celebrations and holidays.

Tobacco doesn't have the same history and cultural impact. From what I understand it is/was mainly "spiritually" used by American Natives for shamanic celebrations. (I can clearly be wrong on that)

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