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From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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I feel like you're confusing "date" with "hookup."

Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. If you are having a date looking to have a long-time relationship, you want someone attractive. And if you are having a date looking to hook up, you want someone attractive. So it makes no difference at all. Unless you are looking for a friend. But then "date" is not the word that I would use.

Building a successful relationship is way more about friendship than sex.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Aren't there traditional matchmaking agencies for people looking for serious relationships in the USA?

I know somebody who made a small fortune by matchmaking her own brides catalogue. Like, not just organizing the get-togethers and technicalities, but actually working to know both sides and, well, match them on the person level. So by my 1-sized sample I would say human touch can still beat algorithms.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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The results of the survey this article is based on seems to be nonsense. The numbers for women and men in each category should more or less match, unless there were a huge difference in same-sex or one-to-many relationsships or in the absolute numbers of male vs female, which seems implausible.

There could be differences in definition between two groups, such as who considers themselves to be in a committed relationship. However, I agree that it appears they have some sampling problems. Also, the methodology is not apparent aside from sample size and I couldn't find it anywhere.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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The results of the survey this article is based on seems to be nonsense. The numbers for women and men in each category should more or less match, unless there were a huge difference in same-sex or one-to-many relationsships or in the absolute numbers of male vs female, which seems implausible.

I saw that top for the number of single men vs single women, especially considering that women account for 51% of the population. I wonder if there was selection bias, or even if there could be some participants lying due to embarrassment of being single. Although your same-sex and multi relationship thing could be worth looking into. I don't know the numbers, but anecdotally I know way more lesbian women than gay men. And it's a trope that couple look for unicorns (indicating demand).

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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I have done dating startups few times, even went on 1+ dates a day for six months and on each actively tried to understand how people date; in my experience, people are highly random, rarely reach anywhere near a significant sample, and tend to focus of characteristics of an individual instead of characteristics related to relationships. If I was to do another social platform that supports dating, it would be one tha…

I'll take the hardest pass ever on a "dating startup" that tells me I shouldn't care about the attractiveness, age, or finances of a potential partner.

When you buy a car, what is your first filter to narrow the market?

What is a pretty car? Or, do I need an SUV, truck or car? Do you want ICE or EV or Hybrid?

Or do you start by picking all the red cars that you think are pretty and then find one that suits your needs?

Sorry for comparing dating to buying a car.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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post #34

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Neither Couch Surfer, nor Meetup are designed for dating — and in my experience anyone using them for dating has a negative impact on there intended use. In the case of Meetup, there are dating groups, but in my experience those are a waste of time.

You don't have to use them for dating to feel less lonely. You can use them to build up a network of friends and have relationships form more organically. Weren't you also the user posting about a friends first approach? This seems like the closest thing to that.

Used to attended wide variety of Meetups and used Couch Surfer too. It’s pretty obvious when people are attending or using a platform for dating, though they rarely say so. For example, hosts that only host attractive females on Couch Surfer. Or meetups where attendees leave if there’s no attractive female that are in attendance or only talk to the attractive females. Even females that are interested in dating are easy to spot too in my experience. — Very rarely are people that are interested in dating taking a friends first approach, it’s time consuming, and to my knowledge no platform that enables users to build a “friend reputation score” based on users rating them.

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post #27

"One 19-year-old women says that she’s looking for mutual respect in a relationship and someone who approaches issues with an open mind." And probably a dozen other things. Self reporting is very hard for this type of thing. Theynshould probably have surveyed ex-partners and prior dates to get both sides of the story. In my experience, most of the time when a woman says she wants you to have an open mind, it means sh…

You do understand that this reasoning cuts both ways. It is much more likely (and mainstream) for the man in the relationship to not tolerate views from their partner that could invalidate or compete with his position, to paraphrase your words. As an example, respectful disagreement with the man in a relationship is explicitly discouraged by conservative Christianity. Women are encouraged to have "loving submission"…

Here's the first result when I googled "biblical meaning of submission in marriage":

"Submission in marriage means selflessness, service, accountability, and respect for your partner, which should be mutual; it is not slavery or a woman's call to lose her voice. The fundamental rubric on which The Christian marriage is built is love, and love is anything but the desire to control."

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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I'll take the hardest pass ever on a "dating startup" that tells me I shouldn't care about the attractiveness, age, or finances of a potential partner.

It’s not that they don’t matter, but that they’re significantly less important than if a person is actually has strong relationship attributes — all of which are measurable via platonic relationships. Most dating platforms as is are extremely hostile to their customers actually finding real relationships, since as soon as they do, by definition, they’re no longer customers; for a friend’s first platform, they would n…

They're not less important, they're table stakes. Is there wiggle room, sure. Maybe sometimes people are capable of being a little more flexible on these things than they realize.

But for example, I think this is true of just about everyone: there's an age range that they're willing to date within, and outside of that range, everyone is a hard pass.

I wouldn't date someone who was twice my age, no matter how great their personality was, it's an absolute no.

Similarly if we use BMI as a proxy for attractiveness. This one may be a little more controversial but I suspect just about everyone has a BMI range they are comfortable with, and if someone is far enough outside of that range, there is no chance, no matter what anyone says, that you are going to date them.

I agree that most dating platforms are hostile to their customers but I think the issues there run much deeper. They all have incentives to _keep you engaged with their platform for as long as possible_, that is how they make the most money. They don't make money by finding you a partner. They are really just social media that can charge a monthly membership fee.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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post #25
post #18

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Do you post on liberal sources "Disclaimer: this comes from a liberal source" too? If you're not doing it uniformly, regardless of bias, then yes, you are poisoning the well.

There is far, far more reason to be worried about sources on the right than there is sources on the left. Right-aligned sources are much more likely to deny science, to skew information in a way that benefits corporate benefactors, and to contain bias against marginalized groups such as LGBTQ and even women.

There it is.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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post #19

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>the user base refused to participate in blind dates And I can see why. Higher chances of a good result, but also higher chances of getting a fat woman or something like that.

It's a date, not a lifetime commitment. And who knows, maybe the fat woman is worth knowing?

Well say you're into fitness, you'd probably wanna date someone a bit more active. But I agree that the plus size woman could have a great personality.
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