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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by can16358p »

rayiner wrote: post #24
can16358p wrote: post #19

Turkish here. This is unbelievable, but totally expected from the current "democractic" government. Social media usage is very high in Türkiye and people are coordinating using social media (mainly Twitter) for rescue operations in near realtime. I'm pretty much sure some people will literally die under wreckage because of communication interruptions as the result of this block. (For anyone telling to use VPN, yeah,…

When you use quotes around “Democratic” do you mean the elections are rigged? I’m not familiar with the legitimacy or lack thereof of Turkish elections.

They are not elected democratically, and they are not deciding on anything democratically, even though it is "democratic" on paper.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by remind_me_again »

rayiner wrote: post #24
can16358p wrote: post #19

Turkish here. This is unbelievable, but totally expected from the current "democractic" government. Social media usage is very high in Türkiye and people are coordinating using social media (mainly Twitter) for rescue operations in near realtime. I'm pretty much sure some people will literally die under wreckage because of communication interruptions as the result of this block. (For anyone telling to use VPN, yeah,…

When you use quotes around “Democratic” do you mean the elections are rigged? I’m not familiar with the legitimacy or lack thereof of Turkish elections.

It's a very subjective judgement and everyone is entitled his or her own opinion. But that one is very biased. As far as elections concerned Turkish election system is very solid as a process and implementation is solid. In the end Erdogan lost Istanbul in the last elections even after that election repeated for only Istanbul, and worse for Erdogan, the second round was much more decisive. People didn't like the election were repeated.

Also, don't fall to the expressions like, "Turkish here", "German there". These does not make anyone expert nor without bias.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by bbor »

rayiner wrote: post #24
can16358p wrote: post #19

Turkish here. This is unbelievable, but totally expected from the current "democractic" government. Social media usage is very high in Türkiye and people are coordinating using social media (mainly Twitter) for rescue operations in near realtime. I'm pretty much sure some people will literally die under wreckage because of communication interruptions as the result of this block. (For anyone telling to use VPN, yeah,…

When you use quotes around “Democratic” do you mean the elections are rigged? I’m not familiar with the legitimacy or lack thereof of Turkish elections.

It’s not quite Russia levels of vote fakery, but rather similar to many other backsliding democracies - the incumbent is credibly accused of using their influence to insure victory. See “controversies” on this page, which describes the election where they modified the constitution to give erdogan completely unchecked power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Turkish_presidential_elec...

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by can16358p »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #37
can16358p wrote: post #19

Turkish here. This is unbelievable, but totally expected from the current "democractic" government. Social media usage is very high in Türkiye and people are coordinating using social media (mainly Twitter) for rescue operations in near realtime. I'm pretty much sure some people will literally die under wreckage because of communication interruptions as the result of this block. (For anyone telling to use VPN, yeah,…

> For anyone telling to use VPN, yeah, many people are used to using VPN because of these blocks not to mention, imagine learning to setup a VPN (Beacuse your life depends on it) while you're buried under rubble..

Exactly. Imagine a government willfully ordering ISPs to block access to Twitter where people under wreckage are trying to reach for help using social media.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by EGreg »

This is why we need an open source alternative that communities can use to self-organize and recover after disasters: https://qbix.com/blog/2019/03/08/how-qbix-platform-can-chang...

The future of decentralization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMm7-j7yIY

Otherwise all we have is outrage at governments and corporations, but they have all the power and all the software too.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by anticensor »

Fellshard wrote: post #16
Darmody wrote: post #12

People asked Elon Musk on twitter to deploy Starlink to Turkey and he said he can't because it is not approved. I wonder why.

Erdogan explicitly declined it when Musk offered.

The main probable cause for it is that Starlink wanted to offer it unfiltered, as they normally do in all other cases of emergency relief coverage; but the Turkish government wanted the regular filtering.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by [deleted] »

phpisthebest wrote: post #30
IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between war and executive priviledges. The former (Russia) unilaterally imposed a decision (war) on another government and its people. The latter (erdogan) is acting in his capacity as the elected representative of the people. Starlink cannot override the decision of the elected executive. He needs approval for that.

>> elected representative of the people. Was he? >>Starlink cannot override the decision of the elected executive. He needs approval for that. Pretty sure he could given the service is in space and Turkey lacks the ability or even really legitimate authority to enforce rules in Low earth orbit. Elon chooses not to because he has enough hot water with US Politicians than to open up that mess. I bet is more worried but…

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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by Jun8 »

Words fail me! This is a serious impediment to search & rescuer efforts as well as coordination for money and other donations. The pretext given for the closure was that Twitter owed money to the Turkish government.

You can see the anger of locals where a mob reacts to Minister of Transportation’s visit: https://youtube.com/shorts/B7t9W7Qgpfs?feature=share

WhatsApp isage is ubiquitous in Turkey but it seems this morning people are seeing problems with that, too.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by m0guz »

Insane. Developers are trying to make the best use of Twitter.

* https://huggingface.co/deprem-ml

* https://deprem.io

* https://deprem.basarsoft.com.tr

* https://go.ahb.app/guvenliharita

* https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1QpICWDVpd3eIScSvaj...

* https://depremenkaz.xyz

Almost all the info listed on these websites coming from twitter.

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