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Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by TheRealPomax »

phphphphp wrote: post #38
TheRealPomax wrote: post #28

Jumping from free to $50/mo feels like there's a 4.99/9.99 plan missing somewhere. Just because you have 3 people on your team doesn't mean you can casually spare $50 a month, that's a lot of money to the vast majority =( Especially since a project going from one to three, and in the rare case four or five, folks is pretty common, but hitting 10 team members is a serious project milestone. At 10, you're probably also…

You work for a billion dollar company, are you speaking from your perspective as a software engineer or... something else? Price sensitivity as an individual is understandable but when you're talking about a team I struggle to understand why there's a meaningful difference between $5 and $50. For a business, if software is valuable enough to use, it's valuable enough to spend $50 on. Plus, $50 is below the threshold…

Maybe, and this might be confusing, folks didn't always work where they do today, and have experiences based on "I don't have money but I work on a project with 5 others that the world seems to use a ton, but no one's paying for". "A team" and "a business" are not the same. Running a business? Pay for team tier. Open source project that just has more than 2 people organized in a team? I'll let you think of that one.

And of course, "it's open source, just install it on your own host" is a perfectly valid response, but "you have money, what are you complaining about" is maybe a little ridiculous given that people can voice concerns for an entire class of folks, not just themselves. $50 is a lot of money for a lot of folks in open source.

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by TheRealPomax »

armatav wrote: post #35
TheRealPomax wrote: post #28

Jumping from free to $50/mo feels like there's a 4.99/9.99 plan missing somewhere. Just because you have 3 people on your team doesn't mean you can casually spare $50 a month, that's a lot of money to the vast majority =( Especially since a project going from one to three, and in the rare case four or five, folks is pretty common, but hitting 10 team members is a serious project milestone. At 10, you're probably also…

Honestly it just sounds like you don’t need it that bad

What a weird reaction to someone voicing the question that open source devs will have, for a project that literally says it's dev-first.

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by gpuhacker »

I'm very unfamiliar with this family of tools, but if anyone knows a tool like this that can monitor arxiv or Google scholar for new papers matching a particular query, I'm very interested. I checked Zapier recently but I didn't see these among the support apps.

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by simonw »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #28

Jumping from free to $50/mo feels like there's a 4.99/9.99 plan missing somewhere. Just because you have 3 people on your team doesn't mean you can casually spare $50 a month, that's a lot of money to the vast majority =( Especially since a project going from one to three, and in the rare case four or five, folks is pretty common, but hitting 10 team members is a serious project milestone. At 10, you're probably also…

The problem with $10/month plans is that replying to a single support email relating to them can swallow your margin for the month and result in a net loss on that customer.

You have to sell SO many of those plans for them to become worthwhile.

It's a lot easier to sell 100 $50 accounts than it is to sell 500 $10 accounts, and you end up with customers that are more likely to increase to even higher tiers in the future.

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by revskill »

debarshri wrote: post #30

For people who are building durable workflows. You should definitely checkout temporal [1]. It is production ready, you can implement pretty much same using the original SDK of the underline services. [1] https://temporal.io/

This is complicated with too many terminologies :(

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by michaelmior »

eallam wrote: post #8
robbiemitchell wrote: post #2

Speaking as a tech-forward "business user" who uses Zapier _a lot_: a key benefit of Zapier is that it enables business users to work independently. Moving triggers and actions behind "developer-friendly" (i.e., developer-required) tooling caps how fast an organization can move on anything outside the critical path for product and strategy. - Core transactional email flow? Great. - Alerting Slack for non-critical act…

Zapier is great for non-developers, and as developers we've even used Zapier in the past because in some simple cases it's actually easier and more reliable than writing the code yourself! It's not easy to write code that connects even just a few services together, and handles transient errors and server interruptions, usually it takes some kind of infrastructure and maintenance, and can no longer be written in the n…

> It's not easy to write code that connects even just a few services together, and handles transient errors and server interruptions, usually it takes some kind of infrastructure and maintenance, and can no longer be written in the normal way (and good luck with delays!).

Based on the example shown, it looks like Trigger.dev handles all this while allowing you to write code pretty close to what I would call "in the normal way." I haven't tried it myself, but if the examples work as advertised, it looks pretty attractive to me.

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by armatav »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #42
armatav wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly it just sounds like you don’t need it that bad

What a weird reaction to someone voicing the question that open source devs will have, for a project that literally says it's dev-first.

Not really - three teammates and the issue is paying $50 a month?

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by TheRealPomax »

simonw wrote: post #44
TheRealPomax wrote: post #28

Jumping from free to $50/mo feels like there's a 4.99/9.99 plan missing somewhere. Just because you have 3 people on your team doesn't mean you can casually spare $50 a month, that's a lot of money to the vast majority =( Especially since a project going from one to three, and in the rare case four or five, folks is pretty common, but hitting 10 team members is a serious project milestone. At 10, you're probably also…

The problem with $10/month plans is that replying to a single support email relating to them can swallow your margin for the month and result in a net loss on that customer. You have to sell SO many of those plans for them to become worthwhile. It's a lot easier to sell 100 $50 accounts than it is to sell 500 $10 accounts, and you end up with customers that are more likely to increase to even higher tiers in the futu…

While true, the free tier already comes with email support [1] so I'm not sure a $10/mo tier would have any impact in that respect?

[1] https://trigger.dev/pricing

Re: Show HN: We built a developer-first open-source Zapier alternative

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Post by daveguy »

gpuhacker wrote: post #43

I'm very unfamiliar with this family of tools, but if anyone knows a tool like this that can monitor arxiv or Google scholar for new papers matching a particular query, I'm very interested. I checked Zapier recently but I didn't see these among the support apps.

In Google Scholar, after your search there will be a button at the end of the page (on mobile, maybe somewhere else on desktop). The button is "Create alert" with an email icon by it. Select this and there will be a form for where to send the alert and the query. Click "Create alert" to get automatically notified of new results.
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