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Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#41

Post by badclient »

wisty wrote: post #34
SammyRulez wrote: post #20

I switch from Rails to Django a while ago. On a feature base the two frameworks are equals. I explained it in depth in this video http://vimeo.com/31083901 ( It's in Italian,mf.Du you speak it?! :-) ). Basicaly I turn on django beacuse I prefer Python to Ruby: again the two languages starts from the same assumptions ( Guido also told that ) it's just my personal taste. Also django do things THE WAY I like more. For e…

Minor grammar Nazi point (since you mention you are Italian, and might be interested) - "turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack", depending on the context. i.e. "She turned me on, the smell of cigarettes is not a turn-on for me, the dog suddenly turned on me and started biting". I've no idea why ... You mean "turned to".

Then why does "...turned on a television" work?

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#42

Post by DuncanIdaho »

jey wrote: post #25

I wonder how they'll avoid the "second-system effect". ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-system_effect )

Second system effect is a possibility. Not a mandatory trap for any team doing a second iteration of their product.

All it takes is for a single person on the team to be aware of the risk and to warn his colleagues.

I would also argue that Justin.tv has enough experienced engineers to avoid the SSE.

SSE is a kind of trap that preys on ignorant and inexperienced.

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#43

Post by [deleted] »

wisty wrote: post #34
SammyRulez wrote: post #20

I switch from Rails to Django a while ago. On a feature base the two frameworks are equals. I explained it in depth in this video http://vimeo.com/31083901 ( It's in Italian,mf.Du you speak it?! :-) ). Basicaly I turn on django beacuse I prefer Python to Ruby: again the two languages starts from the same assumptions ( Guido also told that ) it's just my personal taste. Also django do things THE WAY I like more. For e…

Minor grammar Nazi point (since you mention you are Italian, and might be interested) - "turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack", depending on the context. i.e. "She turned me on, the smell of cigarettes is not a turn-on for me, the dog suddenly turned on me and started biting". I've no idea why ... You mean "turned to".

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Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#44

Post by SammyRulez »

wisty wrote: post #34
SammyRulez wrote: post #20

I switch from Rails to Django a while ago. On a feature base the two frameworks are equals. I explained it in depth in this video http://vimeo.com/31083901 ( It's in Italian,mf.Du you speak it?! :-) ). Basicaly I turn on django beacuse I prefer Python to Ruby: again the two languages starts from the same assumptions ( Guido also told that ) it's just my personal taste. Also django do things THE WAY I like more. For e…

Minor grammar Nazi point (since you mention you are Italian, and might be interested) - "turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack", depending on the context. i.e. "She turned me on, the smell of cigarettes is not a turn-on for me, the dog suddenly turned on me and started biting". I've no idea why ... You mean "turned to".

Thanks , yes I meant "turned to"... accidental humor :-)

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#45

Post by js2 »

badclient wrote: post #41
wisty wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minor grammar Nazi point (since you mention you are Italian, and might be interested) - "turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack", depending on the context. i.e. "She turned me on, the smell of cigarettes is not a turn-on for me, the dog suddenly turned on me and started biting". I've no idea why ... You mean "turned to".

Then why does "...turned on a television" work?

Because it's a phrasal verb with multiple meanings: http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/turn-...

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#46

Post by whatusername »

senthilnayagam wrote: post #21
threepointone wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also US colloquial for very awesome, good, etc. Just like 'sweet'. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sick

now I understand why natural language processing is tough, nuances, context and downvotes

For an even more extreme example, see some of the comments on this: http://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/kq3l7/how_bad_a_w...

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#47

Post by badclient »

js2 wrote: post #45
badclient wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why does "...turned on a television" work?

Because it's a phrasal verb with multiple meanings: http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/turn-...

Right. The OP's comment made it seem like there are only two definitions of that phrase(neither of which applied to my example):

"turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack"

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#48

Post by untog »

wisty wrote: post #34
SammyRulez wrote: post #20

I switch from Rails to Django a while ago. On a feature base the two frameworks are equals. I explained it in depth in this video http://vimeo.com/31083901 ( It's in Italian,mf.Du you speak it?! :-) ). Basicaly I turn on django beacuse I prefer Python to Ruby: again the two languages starts from the same assumptions ( Guido also told that ) it's just my personal taste. Also django do things THE WAY I like more. For e…

Minor grammar Nazi point (since you mention you are Italian, and might be interested) - "turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack", depending on the context. i.e. "She turned me on, the smell of cigarettes is not a turn-on for me, the dog suddenly turned on me and started biting". I've no idea why ... You mean "turned to".

I've heard people say "he turned me on to the idea of..." without it having a sexual context.

Oh, the English language...

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#49

Post by mikeryan »

cfm_80919 wrote: post #33
kev009 wrote: post #29

I wonder what the motivation is. RoR is more mature and it otherwise is a fairly lateral port in terms of features and speed. Both are dynamically typed and tremendously slow compared to the right .net or JVM stack. That would be my main criteria for stack selection in a project of this magnitude.

> RoR is more mature [...] Really? Really?!? https://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8994/tickets/1203 Marking a bug as "wontfix" because the developers of the RoR platform are arrogant enough to say, and I quote, "[...] figure out what other software is putting that version in your environment and stop it from doing so" is now called mature? The dialogue on this bug alone was enough for me to put RoR in my rear-vie…

"figure out what other software is putting that version in your environment and stop it from doing so"

I don't think you understand the context here. The Rails dev is saying (correctly) that nobody should be polluting the environment with a variable as vaguely named as "VERSION" this includes Rails.

Rails uses the "VERSION" environment variable temporarily for migrations. They're not trying to "claim" that variable name for themselves only.

Re: Justin.tv porting their site from Rails to Django?

#50

Post by lucisferre »

badclient wrote: post #47
js2 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's a phrasal verb with multiple meanings: http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/turn-...

Right. The OP's comment made it seem like there are only two definitions of that phrase(neither of which applied to my example): "turn on" is either "sexually attracted to" or "suddenly attack"

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