Gas pumps get periodic state issued inspections. Why not EV chargers?
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Electrify America “fries” EVs at charging stations
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#42Electrify America is getting far too much money and is using it to effectively anti-sell EVs with their janky, broken, and insecure infrastructure. Their funding comes from government subsidies and traditional automakers making reparations for emissions scandals (Volkswagen, $2B). This network is basically being built out of malicious compliance, without reasonable desires to make it good and reliable... My mind will…
Really seems like perverse incentives to me... EA was created due to the VW scandal, and they were forced to spend this money this way. Except, VW's bread and butter is still gas cars. They're not incentivized to herald EVs at all; if anything, they'd prefer it to go as slowly as possible so they can continue to make money off their gas fleet.
Exactly this.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Last year I literally put a spreadsheet together of every single electric car approved for sale in the US, with columns for every specification I cared about. I expected to find Tesla to be overhyped, just based on the fact that it is run by a relentless hypefiend. But for what I wanted (a hatchback with fast acceleration and decent range, and big enough to accommodate a bike without taking the wheel off), th…
im curious whats your problem with Sony? I’ve generally loved their products ever since using the CD players
DRM root kits back in the day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...
Not cool owning your customer's boxes...
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
for certain large segments of EV buyers, especially in US, Tesla is objectively the best EV right now.
They have a pretty poor safety record with regard to Autopilot/FSD, not to mention way too many controls are behind a tablet interface that you should not look at while driving. It also implies I'm endorsing Musk and I'd be embarrassed to drive it. I'd much rather take the pain of CCS with the hope that the infrastructure bill smooths things out or grants supercharger access to CCS vehicles.
All you have to do to avoid the FSD safety issues is spend $10,000 less dollars and not get it.
Also I wouldn't count on the CEOs of Hyundai/Ford being less gross than Elon, they just tweet less, which is good.
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#45I'd imagine overvoltage/overcurrent protection should be on car side ? It would be interesting root cause analysis to see what caused that.
Yes, surely a relay could have prevented this. I did a little googling, and since fast chargers can deliver up to 350kW, it does appear that a breaker rated for that power could be pretty expensive and large (e.g. full panel sized, $1,000). But that’s just a wild guess. Still cheaper than a couple years of insurance payments.
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#46Electrify America is getting far too much money and is using it to effectively anti-sell EVs with their janky, broken, and insecure infrastructure. Their funding comes from government subsidies and traditional automakers making reparations for emissions scandals (Volkswagen, $2B). This network is basically being built out of malicious compliance, without reasonable desires to make it good and reliable... My mind will…
I watched a cross-country trip review of a Volkswagen EV and one of the big takeaways was that despite funding Electrify America, the experience of using their chargers, even with a Volkswagen, was terrible at the time of review. Not only were the chargers often out of service or underpowered, you had to use some app on your phone where you type in the charger ID # to turn it on, instead of the car negotiating it.
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#48They wanted to saw off a charging cable??? With potential juice on both sides (grid and car with fried electronics)?
You could not pay me enough money to do that even if “switched off”
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#49What is the price per kW at an EV charging station compared to what you pay for power at home? How are home owners subsidizing the EV network?
There's enormous infrastructure around DC Fast charging.
Each one of those pedestals is able to dump 30 houses of energy into a car for 30 minutes continuously. And most sites have 4-12 of those things.
It's not a minor engineering task. Add to this that commercial electric billing is often based on your 95th percentile draw over a small window of time, so if you have a station with 12 pedestals and the circuits comes to town, say 12 Electric Hummers, you could end up with an enormous bill.
Home charging, on the other hand, is basically just a baseboard electric heater per house, so not difficult to manage at all.
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#50I will never buy a Tesla, but the CCS network is pretty garbage in the U.S. right now. EA regularly has outages, their newer models (which I have not used) fry vehicles or fail in cold weather, I've only heard bad things about EVGo but never used them. Fortunately I stick to home (Metro Boston) and haven't had any serious problems with ChargePoint stations heading up to Mount Desert Island in Maine, the farthest trip…
for certain large segments of EV buyers, especially in US, Tesla is objectively the best EV right now.
Especially with the recent price cuts. I was cross shopping the Model Y and the Q4 E-Tron last year. The Model Y has the range and performance advantage but was a bit costlier. This year the tables are totally flipped. Audi jacked up their EV prices and now, with the $7500 tax credit, a mid-speced Audi Q4 E-Tron is like $20k more than the Model Y. I ordered a Model Y.
That's not to mention that one can seamlessly order the Model Y and take delivery a couple months later. Obtaining pretty much any EV from a traditional dealer is still a massive PITA.