Anyone else put off by the privacy policy? It’s essentially the equivalent to what most companies do that they are “helping” with. I get that some data retention is required for offering this service, but I am not sure why they would need to retain data if my account is deleted. At least they are up front about it (assuming you are they type to read privacy policies).
Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data
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Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data
#42https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/i... > By transmitting any Communication to the Site, you grant CR an irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, unrestricted, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, reproduce, distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, modify, edit, create derivative works from, incorporate into one or more compilations and reproduce and dist…
This could do with being moved to plain English.
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#43> With a tap, you can tell a company to stop selling your data or to delete your data entirely. Will they listen or just laugh it off? Besides, making it the individual's job to run around and tell everyone to delete their data is the worst possible way. And who has data on you without your knowledge? How about not collecting all that data in the first place? Edit for clarification: I'm not criticizing CR, they're do…
From their FAQ:
“Permission Slip helps you exercise your right to privacy under the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) by acting as your ‘authorized agent’ and sending data requests to companies for you.”
https://www.permissionslipcr.com/faq.php
The California Attorney General is monitoring companies’ compliance with authorized agent requests:
“The sweep also focuses on businesses that failed to process consumer requests submitted via an authorized agent, as required by the CCPA. Requests submitted by authorized agents include those sent by Permission Slip, a mobile application developed by Consumer Reports that allows consumers to send requests to opt-out and delete their personal information.”
https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/ahead-data-privacy-da...
Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data
#44There is also simpleoptout for the more lo-fi approach.
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#45Here's something I never see discussed. Assessing one's credit worthiness is naturally a data business. So, unlike for ads where companies knowing more about you has no upside, when it comes to credit the situation isn't as black and white. There's an actual trade-off. I DO want companies knowing how much I make because that's beneficial for me.
In EU your rating will only get lower if you actually don't pay for loans. I don't need to use credit card and pay it off regularly to get low mortgage. Bank ask about job and income information (for bigger stuff like mortgage) when you get the mortgage, not keep a file with your entire life's of financial information.
Ok for mortgage but I had in mind getting better credit cards in order to get rewards. I do want to give these companies what they want so I can get better rewards.
I'm not saying the trade-off is worth it for everyone, I'm just saying there's a trade-off, unlike in advertising.
Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data
#46https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/i... > By transmitting any Communication to the Site, you grant CR an irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, unrestricted, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, reproduce, distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, modify, edit, create derivative works from, incorporate into one or more compilations and reproduce and dist…
This means (a) their comment pages can incorporate your comments and mini bio to show on their comment pages, and (b) the Internet is not private. They have bad lawyers and bad Chief Legal Officer for allowing this boilerplate in an agreement for an app like this, but these two clauses are less nefarious than they sound. Technically your writings are copyright by you, so this pairing lets them do whatever with your c…
> Chief Legal Officer
Since around 2008 I notice everyone is an officer. There was a specific meaning of officer, and now it is big-shot-ism.
Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
This means (a) their comment pages can incorporate your comments and mini bio to show on their comment pages, and (b) the Internet is not private. They have bad lawyers and bad Chief Legal Officer for allowing this boilerplate in an agreement for an app like this, but these two clauses are less nefarious than they sound. Technically your writings are copyright by you, so this pairing lets them do whatever with your c…
> Chief Legal Officer Since around 2008 I notice everyone is an officer. There was a specific meaning of officer, and now it is big-shot-ism.
I'm imagining within any group of legal experts there's disagreement on how to approach risk/liability and manage it, if it is unavoidable. You need a dictator :)
The parent is probably right: Not a nefarious agreement, but it is some kind of irony that the service exists to help expunge your digital existence in many places and they have you agreeing to use your commentary (satisfaction?) as a means to market themselves.
If you were so happy with their service, I wish you could submit testimony in an explicit area of their site. I left an earlier comment and erased it: I'm not a fan of "implicit" we-can-use-anything-you-do agreements. I wish it were more transactional. That's why this service could be fantastic: It's alienating and exhausting to live in the digital public where every influencer/company wants to use your existence for monetary gain.