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Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

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Post by TweedHeads »

DenisM wrote: post #7
sriramk wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[disclaimer - I work for the Windows Azure team]. The root website is www.azure.com - that should link to all the relevant docs, bits, sites. We're turning on all the switches as I write this so you may see a few 404s before noon PST.

A bit of feedback: I would be hesitant to start using this because there is no way to anticipate the pricing scheme whenever it shows up. Last thing I want is to commit to a platform andthen find out it's cost-prohibitve. Also, google promises to keep certain level of usage free which makes me more likely to try because I know I won't get suddenly hosed with high prices.

The first kick is free you know

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

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Post by TweedHeads »

grantc wrote: post #32
axod wrote: post #22

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Sorry, but if I want to buy a laptop, I wouldn't buy one from Pepsi. Similarly, if I want something Internet related, I wouldn't get it from Microsoft. I just don't see any evidence they understand it. They have done an absolutely awful job in the last 10+ years.

If I want to buy something development and execution architecture based, I'm happy to buy that from MSFT since they've done exceedingly well there. How many sites out there have been running on google and amzn's dev/exec arch's the past 10 years? A lot less than Microsoft's. As far as them getting the internet or not, who cares. There's more to life than the internet. Java and .NET run the enterprise, not sure who am…

I recognize they've done exceedingly well at marketing.

Oh, and extorsioning, strongarming, deceiving, FUDing, bribing, monopolizing, etc.

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

#44

Post by TweedHeads »

axod wrote: post #39
mattmaroon wrote: post #27

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Not entirely true. They've really gotten it where console gaming is concerned, moreso than anyone else. The Xbox has been consistently better than its rivals at that. They're now serving up millions of dollars worth of games per month (allegedly 70% of Xbox owners have used Live Arcade) and are moving into streaming video too. I can now watch MSNBC through it. They've achieved the dream an internet-connected box on m…

I'm not sure how you're measuring console success. For me, Nintendo is the clear winner of the current console wars. Nintendo makes hideous amounts of profit on everything. XBox as far as I understand still makes a gargantuan loss. It's a long term strategy, and who knows, maybe it'll play out for microsoft, but I don't think it's relevant to the question of ms understanding the internet. It just shows they understan…

Wii is the clear winner.

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

#45

Post by TweedHeads »

sriramk wrote: post #4
dmose wrote: post #2

Whitepaper on it: http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/4/3/e43bb484-3b52-4...

[disclaimer - I work for the Windows Azure team]. The root website is www.azure.com - that should link to all the relevant docs, bits, sites. We're turning on all the switches as I write this so you may see a few 404s before noon PST.

I knew astroturfing was around the corner.

We got invaded, like digg, so long to an unbiased HN.

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

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Post by axod »

TweedHeads wrote: post #44
axod wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how you're measuring console success. For me, Nintendo is the clear winner of the current console wars. Nintendo makes hideous amounts of profit on everything. XBox as far as I understand still makes a gargantuan loss. It's a long term strategy, and who knows, maybe it'll play out for microsoft, but I don't think it's relevant to the question of ms understanding the internet. It just shows they understan…

Wii is the clear winner.

The DS has been astoundingly successful also. Especially in getting non-gamers to buy it and use it.

Nintendo played a blinding strategy - let Sony and Microsoft play "Who has the biggest willy" with their hardcore gaming hardware which renders 4 gazillion polygons a second, while Nintendo makes fun games with wide appeal.

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

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Post by arockwell »

TweedHeads wrote: post #45
sriramk wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[disclaimer - I work for the Windows Azure team]. The root website is www.azure.com - that should link to all the relevant docs, bits, sites. We're turning on all the switches as I write this so you may see a few 404s before noon PST.

I knew astroturfing was around the corner. We got invaded, like digg, so long to an unbiased HN.

It is not astroturfing if you say what company your from.

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

#48

Post by gaius »

mattmaroon wrote: post #25
mkn wrote: post #23

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Your reply seems to be a spot-on agreement with my post, except that you don't realize it. Your choice of analogy is particularly amusing in that, right now, if you'd had your money under your mattress, you'd be better off than if you'd invested in one of these highly-leveraged and over-exposed financial vehicles that I'd mentioned. Mattressing one's money may have been the best idea of them all for a large class of…

Almost nobody has yet lost money on typical retail bank products. Even a checking account is better than the mattress. Retail banking is doing just fine. Not that that's too relevant.

What about Icesave?

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

#49

Post by LogicHoleFlaw »

axod wrote: post #39
mattmaroon wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely true. They've really gotten it where console gaming is concerned, moreso than anyone else. The Xbox has been consistently better than its rivals at that. They're now serving up millions of dollars worth of games per month (allegedly 70% of Xbox owners have used Live Arcade) and are moving into streaming video too. I can now watch MSNBC through it. They've achieved the dream an internet-connected box on m…

I'm not sure how you're measuring console success. For me, Nintendo is the clear winner of the current console wars. Nintendo makes hideous amounts of profit on everything. XBox as far as I understand still makes a gargantuan loss. It's a long term strategy, and who knows, maybe it'll play out for microsoft, but I don't think it's relevant to the question of ms understanding the internet. It just shows they understan…

The Xbox division is now actually turning a profit. Not enough to offset the massive losses it's had in the past, but it is actually generating revenue now.

The Xbox itself is a good product. They overlooked the market the Wii pursued, but then again everyone but Nintendo did. If I recall Nintendo has never had an unprofitable quarter, even during the GameCube days when they were doing much less volume than the competitors.

Re: Microsoft launches Windows Azure, its "cloud OS"

#50

Post by mattmaroon »

axod wrote: post #39
mattmaroon wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely true. They've really gotten it where console gaming is concerned, moreso than anyone else. The Xbox has been consistently better than its rivals at that. They're now serving up millions of dollars worth of games per month (allegedly 70% of Xbox owners have used Live Arcade) and are moving into streaming video too. I can now watch MSNBC through it. They've achieved the dream an internet-connected box on m…

I'm not sure how you're measuring console success. For me, Nintendo is the clear winner of the current console wars. Nintendo makes hideous amounts of profit on everything. XBox as far as I understand still makes a gargantuan loss. It's a long term strategy, and who knows, maybe it'll play out for microsoft, but I don't think it's relevant to the question of ms understanding the internet. It just shows they understan…

I was speaking only of their internet usage. Wii is still playing catch up a bit there.
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