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U.S. accuses Google of abusing monopoly in ad technology

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I don't think "whataboutism" is valid criticism when resources are limited.

Resources aren't too limited to pursue the listed things simultaneously, which is demobstrated by the fact that government actually is pursuing them.

Which, to be fair, makes this not just “whataboutism” (which it still is) but more critically deliberate misrepresentation.

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https://archive.ph/vJYU2 I hope something comes of this, but other than a change in administration, what's new on this in the last decade? Hasn't Google essentially controlled most of online advertising for eons? In fact, perhaps more recently Facebook/Meta has chipped into that market more than how things were 8-10 years ago. I was part of an acquisition that Google made in the ad-tech industry back in 2011 and ther…

The administration change indeed has a lot to do with this. New chairs at the FCC (Rosenworcel) and FTC (Sohn) have a much more antitrust bent than in the past. The layoff announcements are connected if you take it that M&A in big tech has been out of control for years, but it's tangential.

Sohn is FCC. Khan is FTC.

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Don’t fall or people will stomp on you.

This was coming one way or another. AI's threat to Google search is merely icing on the cake.

Google has deserved this for a long time coming. AMP, Chrome, removal of ad blocking, defaulting to Google on Chrome and Android, strong arming of web standards...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The administration change indeed has a lot to do with this. New chairs at the FCC (Rosenworcel) and FTC (Sohn) have a much more antitrust bent than in the past. The layoff announcements are connected if you take it that M&A in big tech has been out of control for years, but it's tangential.

Sohn is FCC. Khan is FTC.

No, Lina Khan is the new chair of the FTC under Biden, Bedoya is the most-recently appointed Commissioner, but not the Chair.

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It's pretty irritating that in the presence of clear collusion and abuse inflicted upon general consumers of things like eggs and motor fuels and insulin, the administration spends its limited enforcement capacity this way.

You've got to start somewhere. Google might not exercise its powers in ways that obviously hurt consumers the same way the Eggflation debacle is panning out, but I'm sure the second order effects cause us all a world of pain.

Here's hoping the US government turns a new page and starts a new era of anti-trust breakups. Pretty much every industry has been destroyed by monopolies over the past 20-30 years with next to no enforcement.

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https://archive.ph/vJYU2 I hope something comes of this, but other than a change in administration, what's new on this in the last decade? Hasn't Google essentially controlled most of online advertising for eons? In fact, perhaps more recently Facebook/Meta has chipped into that market more than how things were 8-10 years ago. I was part of an acquisition that Google made in the ad-tech industry back in 2011 and ther…

In 2017, Lina M. Khan, at the age of 27, published Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox. It said everyone was getting antitrust wrong, and there were other ways giant conglomerates were harming competition. Traditionally, unless the consumer was harmed through short term price fixing, just about anything was allowed to fly. The paper took the legal world by storm, and two years ago, she was nominated, confirmed, and appointed…

Small nit: the suit in TFA is from the DOJ, not the FTC.

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https://archive.ph/vJYU2 I hope something comes of this, but other than a change in administration, what's new on this in the last decade? Hasn't Google essentially controlled most of online advertising for eons? In fact, perhaps more recently Facebook/Meta has chipped into that market more than how things were 8-10 years ago. I was part of an acquisition that Google made in the ad-tech industry back in 2011 and ther…

> I hope something comes of this, but other than a change in administration, what's new on this in the last decade? Hasn't Google essentially controlled most of online advertising for eons? As the article points out, "preventing monopolies" is not the prima facie goal of antitrust law as traditionally interpreted. Monopolies are bad because of their effects on the market (e.g. they can raise prices higher than a comp…

>the article that implies that the DOJ is filing this suite in an attempt to get higher courts to revisit that standard.

That is absolutely what they are doing. The FTC has made it very clear they are taking a new approach.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2017, Lina M. Khan, at the age of 27, published Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox. It said everyone was getting antitrust wrong, and there were other ways giant conglomerates were harming competition. Traditionally, unless the consumer was harmed through short term price fixing, just about anything was allowed to fly. The paper took the legal world by storm, and two years ago, she was nominated, confirmed, and appointed…

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/12/06/lina-khans-bat... For more context. A long but good read on the current FTC chairman.

Lina Khan may have written great papers but she isn't fit for the job. She harbors a hate for big tech and cannot be impartial in her dealings.

See her recent attempt to prevent Meta from acquiring Within. There is no sane, level-headed case that could possibly paint this acquisition as an antitrust violation. Even most legal experts will agree that Lina Khan's case is a stretch at best.

It's clear that this case is simply motivated by a hatred for Meta more than anything rational, and such decision making can harm the emergence of nascent technology such as AR/VR.

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