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Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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I thought they shitcanned HoloLens years ago, I had written that project off as already obviously dead.

I was really surprised earlier today to see a product review video of a 3D printer that makes use of the HoloLens for the user interface. After making a huge splash when announced, it really does seem to have withered away, at least from the public eye.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Still blows my mind that the military was going to spend 20 billion on hololens

Battlefield AR will happen, the biggest thing holding all of the AR use cases up is hardware miniaturization. Smart glasses will be a thing in time

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Every business will can projects in their portfolio when belt tightening. VR and its multitude of derivative just isn't a core competency of M$. If anybody is to win this space then it'll be Apple IMO.

You mean Meta right? Otherwise it just sounds like you haven’t been following the field.

No, I mean Apple. There's such a vast number of Apple fans who will buy whatever Apple put out in this space, I reckon. If anybody can make it succeed then it's Apple. Facebook is distrusted by everybody these days so I don't think it has the wherewithal to make it as people value their privacy more than they let on.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is readying itself to sell/splitoff its consumer products and focus on Enterprise and Cloud. That could also be part of the reason why they're trying to make the consumer version of Windows generate revenue streams. The only thing that might point the other direction is the acquisition of Activision. Why buy it if you're going to spinoff that division?

If they're selling or splitting off consumer, why are they trying to buy Activision Blizzard?

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it really, or is it short term thinking?

Is HoloLens on a trajectory towards success, in your opinion? Seems to me it's far too expensive for gamers, and not all that useful for business - all I can find online are mock ups of hypothetical business uses, like telling mechanics which way to turn a spark plug to tighten it. To me that doesn't seem very useful. What are the chances a job is done so rarely your workers don't know the procedure already; and yet…

The opportunity is in the first consumer grade smart glasses. If MS could get their hardware there first, they had a chance to disrupt the Google/Apple (bi)monopoly on mobile devices. The Hololens2 experience is quite good, what one would want in a pair of smart glasses.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

#47

Shutting down AltSpace should be a loud warning bell for Meta’s Horizon Worlds. Horizon is basically a badly executed AltSpace. AltSpace was super niche, but some artists and marginalized people seemed to find a home there. It was like an odd cross between a digital Burning Man and a BIPOC LGTBQ+ neurodivergent support group. I had a memorable conversation during the height of the pandemic with an older gay man whose…

That’s cool for the people who are part of these communities, but also explains why I never heard of any of these things.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

#48

It's funny I keep thinking about how the same people might work on the same thing but with different terms. As a W2 employee you make great money, but your upside is capped. Your downside is never capped, of course. As a founder you make okay money, you have better upside. But the same corp that fired you will invest that money with the VC that funded you. So, either way, the capital flows through the corp to you, an…

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Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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It's funny I keep thinking about how the same people might work on the same thing but with different terms. As a W2 employee you make great money, but your upside is capped. Your downside is never capped, of course. As a founder you make okay money, you have better upside. But the same corp that fired you will invest that money with the VC that funded you. So, either way, the capital flows through the corp to you, an…

> Your downside is never capped, of course. Surely your downside is capped at zero?

W2 work feels more stable and secure than startup land. If you worked for Google for 20 years you don't expect to be let go with no notice by an automated system. But that is exactly what happened to thousands of people just now. You kind of expect this kind of thing in startup land. Recent events show this downside is not unique to startups, and can affect any worker anywhere. It's chilling, and it should take some of the glow off of W2 work in comparison to startup work. But like I said, there is a third alternative which is, IMHO, far more fullfilling and grounded anyway, which is bootstrapping and working directly with customers.
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