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Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by Quarrelsome »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #21
anonymouse008 wrote: post #14

I worked on custom EEGs and all I have to say is, "so long and thanks for all the fish!" Seriously though, is this really what this beautiful tech will end up being!? Come on people - have some humanity - think beyond these neanderthal brain use cases. These examples show little imagination, almost as if they are already shepherded by an AI. This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter…

Funny thing - in business (as I’m war) the ones with least compassion win. So these same people end up with the money and decide how to spend it. It’s up to us the techies and scientists (with no money) to say no.

> Funny thing - in business (as I’m war) the ones with least compassion win.

I don't remember that happening in 1945. I think being compassionate has some significant propaganda advantages that you are failing to value. To return from war to business I would suggest that working for a company that is compassionate might make hiring good candidates much easier in contrast to a company that isn't. Combined with assumed turnover and associated loss of productivity the compassion could translate into a competitive advantage.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by noughtme »

at_a_remove wrote: post #35
agnos wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I don't understand. How is this and other public WEF content not guaranteed bad press/fuel for social unrest? Or is that the intent?

I don't think they care. They can just shrug and say "Misinformation" and "You need to stop letting the alt-right scare you." And ten years later when you're squeezing the last of the bug-paste ("New Crunchy style!") out of your pre-third shift meal supplement packet and reading on the telescreen how the chocolate ration has been increased to five grams, well, you won't want to do anything rebellious in your safe lit…

> Amaflix and Marv-Ney

What's Marv-Ney?

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by Quarrelsome »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #40
Quarrelsome wrote: post #34

> His employer could have prevented such a “disastrous” outcome, said Farahany, with a “simple wearable hat” that, using “embedded electro-sensors,” I figure if I'm doing an illegal shift my boss has pressured me into I'm going to take the hat off because either my boss tells me to or its uncomfortable over the course of a 20 hour shift. I don't think it solves the problem in the way they pretend it does. Nor do I bu…

if the intent of this is to moniter people with 20 hour shifts then they better not have the training model be following happy paths, neurodivergent or not. train it on the most miserable people you can find, that will be the kind of people who will be wearing this thing.

Imagine you're a 12 year old in 2065 forced to wear a shocking device that forces you to "pay attention" in class but for whatever reason it incorrectly identifies you as never paying attention.

You could argue that it is poorly made but perhaps the model was trained in a rush because it was a cheap, knock-off produced en-masse for school-scale.

Even if its well-made; imagine you're some 1 in a 1,000,000 non-typical. Who is the school going to believe, some irksome child or the system that works perfectly fine for 99.99% of other students? "Obviously" in such a case, the child is lying and just needs to learn to pay attention.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by lucumo »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #14

I worked on custom EEGs and all I have to say is, "so long and thanks for all the fish!" Seriously though, is this really what this beautiful tech will end up being!? Come on people - have some humanity - think beyond these neanderthal brain use cases. These examples show little imagination, almost as if they are already shepherded by an AI. This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter…

> This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter where you are on earth, even with the poorest of educational systems, we could know what you naturally 'master' with this tech. That means knowing what subjects and concepts you can commit to memory with a gifted efficiency!! Imagine the sorting hat coming to you and picking you out to join the guild of X or Y! > > But instead we want to talk about "productivity" and "throughput" - as if everyone should be treated as an input / output device for yet another interface.

Did you really intend to write that as "but instead"? It confuses me greatly, because I feel that your first example is about as bad as TFH.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by [deleted] »

agnos wrote: post #23
LarryMullins wrote: post #6

WEF are either completely tone deaf, or they're playing the role of the heel. "You will own nothing and you will be happy."

This is what I don't understand. How is this and other public WEF content not guaranteed bad press/fuel for social unrest? Or is that the intent?

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Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by anonymouse008 »

KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #19
anonymouse008 wrote: post #14

I worked on custom EEGs and all I have to say is, "so long and thanks for all the fish!" Seriously though, is this really what this beautiful tech will end up being!? Come on people - have some humanity - think beyond these neanderthal brain use cases. These examples show little imagination, almost as if they are already shepherded by an AI. This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter…

Current dry electrode technology is nowhere close to being useful for high fidelity applications. You will need a breakthrough in ML/signal processing that can solve the cocktail party problem for a very large n . (Given the current advances in ML, I won't be surprised if we start seeing improvements in this area) To quote professor Mike Cohen, all of neuroscience (the EEG BCI part at least) is source separation. htt…

The author of the “great text” of EEG - where we started, too. Yeah; I was surprised with our results, but if you follow his instruction, there’s a lot one can glean.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by lucumo »

user- wrote: post #10

The amount of bias on this news site is overwhelming, so im going to take this whole article with some skepticism.

Good call. From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeSiteNews:

> LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #30

> His employer could have prevented such a “disastrous” outcome, said Farahany, with a “simple wearable hat” that, using “embedded electro-sensors,” could measure brain wave activity and gauge “what stage of alertness the person was experiencing and whether or not they are starting to fall asleep.” Sure... or 5 other ways that don't involve reading brain waves.

Perhaps cameras that feed some sort of AI vision service trained to detect how much time has been spent driving, and automatically call their boss? How else could a trucker possibly be stopped from driving so far? Lol

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Post by 20after4 »

noughtme wrote: post #43
at_a_remove wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they care. They can just shrug and say "Misinformation" and "You need to stop letting the alt-right scare you." And ten years later when you're squeezing the last of the bug-paste ("New Crunchy style!") out of your pre-third shift meal supplement packet and reading on the telescreen how the chocolate ration has been increased to five grams, well, you won't want to do anything rebellious in your safe lit…

> Amaflix and Marv-Ney What's Marv-Ney?

Marvel + Disney?
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